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Title: Just Beat It!!!
Post by: talesofthesevenseas on December 19, 2011, 06:47:24 pm
A while back I posted a Dover cast iron egg beater that was given to me by a friend. This beater had snapped off at the neck, due to a flaw in the iron, there was an air bubble in the the center of the neck, which essentially made it hollow. I tried to epoxy it, but it kept snapping off.

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x124/talesofthesevenseas/EggBeater1.jpg)

The other day I made cookie frosting and after beating, and beating, and beating with a fork until my arms were numb, I finally admitted that the time had come to give up on trying to repair the beater and locate another one.

My mother, bless her heart, tried to talk me into an electric mixer, reminding me that my grandmother had no qualms about using one and neither should I. Being the antique-loving nutcase that I am, I insisted in no uncertain terms that I would not allow an electric mixer into my kitchen! Mom shook her head and I think she said something like "Whatever makes you happy!"

This is what makes me happy- $29 for not one, but four antique beaters in various sizes! Woohoo!

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x124/talesofthesevenseas/Beaters.jpg)

All but the one in the back are clean and fully functional.

The one in front is made by A & J Manufacturing Co and here is what I found on it: "This rare sized beater was made only one or two years and was designed to fill the need for a beater for small amounts, such as for beating a small amount of cream, or a single egg, or to mix a small portion of mayonnaise. This was last shown in the A & J 1939 catalog – written on the wheel is: Beats Anything – In a Cup Or A Bowl – and also is marked: A & J – Made In United States Of America. Is a four wing beater with wood handles and is 7-1/4 inches length. (Reference from Jane H. Celehar’s "Kitchen’s and Gadgets 1920-1950" 1982 pg. 75) This small size would easily be confused for a child’s toy beater." Source: http://www.tias.com/12908/PictPage/3923918092.html (http://www.tias.com/12908/PictPage/3923918092.html)

The second one from the front is marked "T&S" near the handle and "EGG BEATER MADE IN U.S.A PAT. APPLIED FOR". It is in the style of the Dover egg beaters, which were first produced in the 1850's and were so popular that the term "Dover" became synonymous with an egg beater. Dover made beaters through about the early 1900's, so it looks like this one probably falls in that same time frame.

The third one from the front is a really nice, large beater marked "SIDE SADDLE DOVER BEATER PAT. DEC. 27 - 98" I think this one is going to get the most use in my kitchen. It's surprisingly clean, has only two tiny smidgens of rust on the wheel and works great.

The fourth one all the way at the back is the only non-functional one and it is also the oldest of the bunch. It turns, but is so rusty that it catches on itself. The wood is gone from the handle. It is marked "DOVER EGG BEATER 1880", "PAT'D MAY 6TH 1878 APR 3d 1888 NOV 24 1881", "Boston U.S.A", "DOVER STAMPING CO." and a model number "6".

What do you guys think, should I try to clean up the last one with some white vinegar, then oil it to see if I can get it functioning smoothly again? There's no way to get a handle on it again, but it can work just fine without one. I could leave it alone and let it be a decoration. I am thinking however that it would be better for it to try to get rid of it's rust, do you guys agree?
Title: Re: Just Beat It!!!
Post by: JoshandLila on December 19, 2011, 06:55:18 pm
Very cool beaters Tales!! If you wanted to fix the first one a good bronze braze would probably fix it up strong as ever
Title: Re: Just Beat It!!!
Post by: talesofthesevenseas on December 19, 2011, 06:57:57 pm
What is bronze braze?  ???
Title: Re: Just Beat It!!!
Post by: talesofthesevenseas on December 19, 2011, 07:00:19 pm
Also remember the first one has a casting flaw, air pockets right in the neck where it broke.
Title: Re: Just Beat It!!!
Post by: JoshandLila on December 19, 2011, 07:10:51 pm
Brazing is a high temperature soldering process that works decent on cast. I recently got a couple radiators from my parents house and the cast iron brackets that held the radiator up on the wall had been broken and repaired with a bronze braze 50 years ago and they're still strong as new. welding it with tungsten would also work.. but most people dont have that kind of equipment lying around. Brazing can be done with MAPP gas from the hardware store and a small torch with a rod of bronze braze.. just an idea, I hate throwing things away. Probably more trouble than its worth unless its an heirloom egg beater lol
Title: Re: Just Beat It!!!
Post by: talesofthesevenseas on December 19, 2011, 07:15:28 pm
Since you have the means to fix it, if you would like to give it a good home I would love to give it to you. It was given to me by a friend and it belonged to her grandmother, so I was not going to toss it, but had been keeping its parts carefully in a little drawer for about a year and a half. I don't have the means or the skills to solder it. Would you like to have it? If so, message me with an address where I can send it. I would be glad if it had a home with someone who had the means to do right by it and could make it functional again. :)
Title: Re: Just Beat It!!!
Post by: snowflake on December 19, 2011, 08:08:18 pm
Nice! and here I thought mine was old. Not so much...
Title: Re: Just Beat It!!!
Post by: cogar on December 20, 2011, 05:23:53 am
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There's no way to get a handle on it again, .....

Tales, not really a big problem iffen you want a handle on it.

First you find someone with a wood lathe to "turn" you out a handle that is almost identical to the handle on the large beater in your picture …… making sure the length of the new handle is slightly shorter than the handle “shaft” of the old beater. That’s a 15 – 20 minute task for someone with a wood lathe.

Next, you drill a hole thru the center of the new handle that is slightly larger than the handle “shaft” of the old beater.

Next, using a sharp knife or wide blade wood chisel, ……. split that new handle, ….. in line with the grain of the wood, ……. right thru the center of the hole you drilled thru it. It will work best if you place the handle on a firm surface, align the knife or chisel just right and then “tap” the knife/chisel one time to keep it from moving …… and then strike it real hard to get a clean break.

Then sparingly apply some “waterproof” glue to the “break” …. then put the two pieces on the handle “shaft” of the old beater and clamp them tight until the glue dries. Then sand it, stain it, paint it ……… and you will never know it was replaced.

Cheers
Title: Re: Just Beat It!!!
Post by: mart on December 20, 2011, 11:08:25 am
I would fill in the hollow with JB Weld and re-attach the handle !!
Title: Re: Just Beat It!!!
Post by: talesofthesevenseas on December 20, 2011, 11:19:28 am
Mart, JB Weld is what failed, and it failed just sitting in a bowl, not even being used. I'm afraid that there is more air than metal inside the neck, so soldering it, maybe even inserting a pin into the air gap is probably the only thing that will work for this.

Cogar, I am thinking that maybe I should give the one in need of a handle to you, as I have no access to a lathe, if you would like it. If one goes to you and one to J&L, that still leaves me with the three functioning beaters in three sizes, which is perfect to cover every conceivable mixing concoction that could occur in my kitchen, and I'll have a set of three to hang in a row. Message me with an address to send it to if you would like it.
Title: Re: Just Beat It!!!
Post by: cogar on December 21, 2011, 05:37:37 am
Thanks, Tales, I appreciate the offer but no thanks. My fixerupperin days are over with, thanks to that *X>%@#? RA. I done sold my lathe, router, drill press, table saw, etc., but still kept my old radial arm saw, planer and some small tools for those "honeydo" if my honey does them jobs via my supervision.

Like her latest “honeydo” project of wanting our small front porch enclosed to keep the snow and rain off of it, which was just completed about 2 weeks ago. And “NO”, she didn’t do it, she hired a “handyman” carpenter to do the work. And of course I figured neither one of them knew what they were gonna do …… so I had them take detail measurements of the 7’x15’ porch and via Micrografx Window Draw created highly detailed construction drawings. Then I sat around and supervised its construction.

HA, my biggest problem was trying to buy a Storm Door because I wanted one that I could hang “backwards”, ….. meaning, I wanted to hang it on the inside of the door jam so that it would open to the inside ……. and those young inexperienced Sales Clerks at both Lowes and Home Depot thought I was crazy because they knew fer sure that all Storm Doors open to the outside. Those youngens have got a lot to learn, ya know. ;D ;D

Anyway, here is what that completed “honeydo” project looks like.
Title: Re: Just Beat It!!!
Post by: Oceans64 on December 21, 2011, 08:19:38 am
HA, my biggest problem was trying to buy a Storm Door because I wanted one that I could hang “backwards”, ….. meaning, I wanted to hang it on the inside of the door jam so that it would open to the inside ……. and those young inexperienced Sales Clerks at both Lowes and Home Depot thought I was crazy because they knew fer sure that all Storm Doors open to the outside. Those youngens have got a lot to learn, ya know. ;D ;D


I'm with you on this Cougar. Our front door has a storm door on it that opens to the outside.  Makes me nuts!!  If I want to let people in the house they almost have to step off the small porch to get out of the way.  Then there is the issue of juggling the excited dog who has a clear path to freedom if you don't body-block it just right!!

Your wife's project turned out great!!  EXCELLENT supervision on your part  ;)
Title: Re: Just Beat It!!!
Post by: talesofthesevenseas on December 21, 2011, 11:27:20 am
Nice porch!! No worries on the beater Cogar, I can hang it along with it's more functional friends on the wall. Josh&Lila, your project beater is going into the mail today at lunch.  ;D
Title: Re: Just Beat It!!!
Post by: talesofthesevenseas on December 26, 2011, 03:48:43 pm
The beaters in their new home on the kitchen wall...

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x124/talesofthesevenseas/BeatersOnWall2.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x124/talesofthesevenseas/BeatersOnWall3.jpg)
Title: Re: Just Beat It!!!
Post by: Rauville on December 26, 2011, 06:16:20 pm
Tales;
Nice display. You've got an interesting little collection right there.
BTW: You must be a real sardine lover by the looks of that tin on your cupboard. ;)
Title: Re: Just Beat It!!!
Post by: talesofthesevenseas on December 26, 2011, 08:24:51 pm
Actually I don't eat any fish at all, but that sardine mega-tin is shaped like a book and it makes a great place to store all my hand-written and printed out recipes. The real antique cookbooks are on the opposite side of the possum-belly Hoosier.
Title: Re: Just Beat It!!!
Post by: JoshandLila on January 07, 2012, 09:09:25 am
I finally got it done! I removed the rivet and the cranking wheel so I could weld it all the way around and once welded I heated up the welded spot to about 1700 degrees so I could get a nice mill scale finish and help it blend in. Its not quite as pretty as it was but it still has a long life left, thanks for givin me the chance to fix it! welding cast is do-able, but as small as this was I was worried about burning right through it, looks like I got lucky :)
Title: Re: Just Beat It!!!
Post by: BungalowMo on January 07, 2012, 09:58:10 am
Wow...great job on the weld!  Now that great little beater has a happy new home & is fully functional to boot!!  ;D

So Tales...what is that cast iron device clamped to your Hoosier??  I was trying to figure it out, but I'm at a loss on this one!
Title: Re: Just Beat It!!!
Post by: talesofthesevenseas on January 07, 2012, 11:10:13 am
AWESOME!! I am so happy that the little beater will be with you merrily whipping up goodies in your kitchen once more and for years to come! Great job there Josh, I know this was tough to do and I'm so glad that you were able to pull it off! WELL DONE!! THREE CHEERS!!!

BungaloMo, that's my apple peeler. It's an 1880 RP Scott model and it's my little pride and joy. Here's a little video I shot of it in action, peeling an apple in under three seconds. That screech you hear in the background is my cockatoo who knows that an apple peel is coming!

http://s181.photobucket.com/albums/x124/talesofthesevenseas/?action=view&current=ApplePeelerVideo-1.mp4 (http://s181.photobucket.com/albums/x124/talesofthesevenseas/?action=view&current=ApplePeelerVideo-1.mp4)

Here's the topic where there are some closeup photos of the peeler:

http://www.antique-shop.com/forums/index.php?topic=7619.0 (http://www.antique-shop.com/forums/index.php?topic=7619.0)

I can't say enough about how great these antique peelers are if you make anything from apples. Worth every penny and they are much better made than the modern ones from what I understand.
Title: Re: Just Beat It!!!
Post by: BungalowMo on January 07, 2012, 08:50:27 pm
OMG!  Loved the video...and the Bird screeching for treats!  Gotta love that!!

That thing looks amazing.  I'm a total "old device" lover.  Especially kitchen gadgets  ;D
Title: Re: Just Beat It!!!
Post by: talesofthesevenseas on January 07, 2012, 08:56:08 pm
I use that peeler all the time. It is rock solid and works just great. It is fun too! There are tons of them on Ebay that are still fully functional like this one.
Title: Re: Just Beat It!!!
Post by: hosman321 on January 08, 2012, 06:10:13 am
Love the new beater collection tales, they look awesome. Imagine all the home cooked meals those puppies have whipped up.
Glad that you were able to give a brand new life to the broken one Josh, that is way cool of tales to give it a new home. :) That little weld is a part of it's history now and people in the future will wonder when it was done and who did it, just like we do with antiques now. They'll know that someone didn't just toss it in the trash.
The apple peeler is way cool, I want one now! I have a bag full of apples just waitin'.
Title: Re: Just Beat It!!!
Post by: talesofthesevenseas on January 08, 2012, 11:21:25 am
I make a whole lot more apple pies and things than I would without it because it cuts the prep time to less than half. I can come home from work and knock out an apple pie any time and the apples get into the pie without turning brown. Check out Ebay, there are lots to choose from. Just make sure that the seller puts an apple on it an peels it. Sometimes they say "it works" and don't actually try it on an apple. It shouldnt be that hard to do a quick test drive.