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Antiques! => Antique Questions Forum => Topic started by: help on January 21, 2012, 11:33:48 PM
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Hello all, I'm hoping the someone out there can help me identify what this item is. I've had it for many years and have never been able to identify what it is. The end piece that looks like a funnel, doesn't have any drain holes on the inside, so it isn't a funnel. Any help at all will be appreciated. thank you ???
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Given the fact that it appears the “funnel” shaped container is affixed to a 4-position adjustable “trip” or “dump” mechanism, my guess is that it is some sort of “flow” or “pressure” (air, water, etc.) control or measuring device.
But what that device is or was, I don’t yet have a clue. Knowing from where or how you acquired it may give us a clue?
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looks a bit like a lamp snuffer, prob totally wrong though ;D
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My grandfather had a device similar (not saying this is what yours is for) and it was for measuring the gigantic sprinkler coverage in the orange groves.
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When I had my antique shop I had an old ( wooden) washing machine that had similar arms inside !! It had a hand crank and as you turned the crank the arms (two like yours) rotated around and around to wash clothes !! Turn your piece upside down with the funnel on the bottom,, is there a way to attach the top arm to something else !! Can`t remember exactly how mine attached except there was a rotating arm that circled while the part you have went up and down !! Some sort of gear system I think !!
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In addition to the wonderful advice given by mart...does it look like the item was "staked" in the ground?
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mart, that could be it, a rotating “dasher” arm. It looks to be galvanized, thus it won’t rust. And that “trip” mechanism would prevent an article of clothing from getting “hung-up” on the dasher.
If one did, the “funnel” end would flip sideways and the garment would slide off.
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Its been so long I really don`t remember how exactly it worked !! The top arm was a back and forth pump type and as you pumped it back and forth the interior part which attached to the main rotating arm at a right angle went around and the bottom part, like the pic, went up and down !! Lord I hope you can understand this !! It was really a simple machine as the gears advanced the center arm and I think the entire thing went up and down, but I am not sure !! Cant remember how the gears worked !!
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I agree that this is probably an early washing machine agitator / plunger. But I'm having a hard time remembering why they would have adjustable positioning like this one has.
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Maybe just to get them out of the way and make removal easier !! It had a drain and a wringer but no spin cycle so they would have been pretty wet and heavy !!
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Hello and thank you all for your input. It seems that the consensus is that it is a old washing machine part. I did a google search for antique/vintage washing machines and saw images of 100's of antique washers most were made of wood and some were made of copper. But I saw nothing resembling the piece in question. Also, I'll answer some of the questions that were asked:
does the wooden handle get staked into the ground? NO, there's evidence of that. The metal is all galvanized
where did you get it.
Knowing from where or how you acquired it may give us a clue? I got with in a lot of unrelated stuff.
Here's some additional information. The metal parts are galvanized. I don't see were it could have been fastened or attached to something else.
IF anyone can show any photos of this item or a similar looking item as part of a washing machine that would be helpful.
Thank you again and please keep the comments coming.
ross
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What does the end of the long metal part, the bottom of your pics, look like ?? Is there a hole as if for a bolt to go through ?? If its galvanized it likely came into contact with water at some point !! Like Cogar said,,it doesn`t rust and was mostly used because of that fact !! I looked at the washing machine museum but my computer freezes on front page !! But most of the pics may not show the inside !!
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Matt,
"the long metal part, at the bottom of the pitcher" that you referred to, isn't actually metal, it's wood. If we're talking about the same part. The part that i'm referring to, is the part that is pointing straight down in the pictures. And you can see that it's a different color than the galvanized metal parts. If that is the part in question, its made of wood and to me, it seems like its a handle of sorts. And there aren't any holes in it to fasten it.
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OK !! Yes, that sure helps !! We cannot always tell what items are made of by looking at a pic !! May I ask what the size of this item is ?? Also where are you located ?? Not specifically just in general !! Northern states ect !! Is anything written inside the funnel ?? May be something similar to what KC was talking about !!
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Matt, Using the top picture (90 degrees), it's 20" x 20".
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Just throwing this out there as I search around.......
http://heathsoldwarescollectables.blogspot.com/2011/09/john-farnham-portrait.html
"known as a dolly -
the hand operated agitator from a very early washing machine"
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Anything in this pic look familiar?? (Sorry the pic is so small)
http://www.antiqbuyer.com/All_Archives/PM-SS-ARCHIVE/sswashwer-archive.htm
Primitive Washing Machine Patent Model / Salesman Sample
There is no patent tag with this one, but there is little doubt in my mind what it is or was intended as. And as with many patent models from this era and their inventors, this fellow had a lot of time, energy, and imagination but came up a bit short in the common sense design division. The action is great---turn the main wheel on the outside and once you get it going what you have is one of the noisiest up and down and back and forth rocking contraptions ever imagined. All at once you would have a large corrugated laundry pounder scrubbing and pounding the cloth clean on the end of the large articulated arm, while just behind that, going up and down at the same time, was the suds-making agitator / plunger. And to top it off, the tub is rocked back and forth and up and down by another mechanical arm which operated from underneath at the same time. This fellow's friends and advisors for this project must have been real dreamers or worse, as it is such a wildly stupid idea that it never had a hope of getting into production, much less into the wife's laundry room. Give me a Maytag she said!
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Matt, Sorry, I didn't see your other 2 questions. No, there is nothing written on the funnel or any other part of it. I'm located in upstate, NY.
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Hello all,
A continued thank you to all that have added input to this mystery. I'm really hoping we can get to the bottom of it.
thank you
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I keep thinking its some sort of measuring device for some sort of crude production line like on a farm. If you stood it up on that wood pole what position would the funnel be in? Would it stand up ready to receive a material out of a hopper? Then the operator could dump the properly measured amount into whatever they were packing the material in? Could you take pictures of the top and inside the funnel. Also try figuring out how much material the funnel holds. If it is a measuring device figuring out how much of something it holds might help. See how many cups of dry material it holds like flour and how much water it holds.
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Kevin,
Good ideas. I'll do that and get back to you asap.
thank you
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As long as i might be allowed to muddy the waters further , my speculation about this little item is that it was once part of a manually-operated assembly , designed as a spreader/stopper (used with the large end of the 'cone' pointing downwards) in a bin hopper (with a sim size hole in its' bottom) feeder , used for raising a buncha fish in sizeable 'ponds' (trout/catfish/carp/etc. 'farms') .
I've seen the modern versions of such items (-fish-feeders , that is ... yeah , they're electric now) , in the countrys' oldest fish hatchery , S.W. Missouri .
Another guess would be for feeding chickens in a 'free run' chicken hse (same basic use , manual bin stopper/spreader) .
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Does it have a spring action? For instance, if it was used to be filled and once a weight/amount was achieved...it would tip/empty and then upright itself again to start over again?