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Antiques! => Antique Questions Forum => Topic started by: glasschick on December 29, 2012, 05:54:15 pm
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Hi, I have tried for awhile to find out what this large cabinet's intended purpose was. It has 16 drop-face drawers, is 5' high, 4' wide with 2 pull out shelves. It has 2 swing short side doors with skeleton keyholes and the drawers are indented to fit inside the doors on each side, the drawers are all dove tailed, hinges and slotted screws are brass. It has a thick black lacquer on faces.
Is is for stationary, files or what?
Thanks for any help you can give me.
glass chick
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OK !! When you open the side doors, there is a writing surface but but not all the drawers require the sides to be open !! Same on the other side but some of the drawers are wider ?? Is that correct ?? Kind of like a legal cabinet or secretary but odd design !! Is this your cabinet where did you get it, and what is your location ?? Looks like a UK type !!
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I think I see how this functions: The side doors lock all drawers + the pull-out shelves. The drawers have false fronts with trim surrounding the pull knobs.
I would agree that "legal file" would be my first thought...but really have no idea.
Does the portion above the drawer unit have anything behind the decorative front?
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Called a Wellington Chest, named after the 1st Duke of Wellington. It usually had 6 to 12 drawers of equal depth. The right-hand side of the frame, which overlapped the drawers, was hinged and fitted with a lock. Hard to see from the photos what the age is.
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You,ve nailed it gg,..you get one of these...
and here,s loads more...http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=wellington+chest&hl=en&tbo=u&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ei=3pPfUMPTO5OM0wW8xICACg&sqi=2&ved=0CFYQsAQ&biw=1024&bih=651
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Thanks so much, that was fast ;) Ok, it opens with the 2 side doors that both have locks. It has 2 paper holding shelves that pull out halfway down. The top is ornate but empty inside top. I have had it 20+ years...got it in trade in OLas vegas for a $1000 stained glass window. I store my art supplies in it.
What do you think the value might be and how old is it, how can we date it?
You guys rock!
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Thats the first one I have seen !! At least I got the country right !! Knew it wasn`t U.S.!
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age wise...mid to late Victorian..1860 /1902..value very dependant on condition..and finish...Dark furniture over here in the UK..is going through a very bad patch at moment...if this was up for sale 10/15 years ago...you could expect...£2/3000,...now you,ll be lucky to get your initial investment back...and as this has been black laquered...then it is most likely a Mourning..Piece...A fter the death of Prince Albert in 1861...Queen Victoria..went into Mourning..and dressed in Black..for the rest of her long life...and many pieces of furniture that were made after Alberts death...were laquered black...subsequentl y they became known as Mourning furniture...At present on Ebay Uk..there are a good few examples...mostly made of Oak..or Mahogany...prices range from £695....up to £1,695...but they have no bids....my advice would be...if you are not dependant on what you might get for it....keep it...its serving a purpose and earning its keep
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Thanks Mart!
Thanks so much bigwull, you are very savvy and I sure appreciate it! I love the piece and a friend likes it more than the rest of my antiques and asked if I would sell it. Economy being what it is, as a glass blower now in Oregon the last dozen years I was thinking of parting with it. You have changed my mind, it is a functionally grand piece. Sure wish I could date it better or see one closer to it in pictures.
It certainly is earning it's keep, I know I will thank you more down the road!
This is great...after the holidays I am going to have to post a few more items just to see where they lived before me!
Mourning period, that is sad but cool.
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bigwull, Would you know where to look for the maker's mark? All the drawers are numbered in pencil on back in fancy written numbers but nothing on bottoms of drawers. What companies there might have made this?
gg, thank you for your reply also!
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Looking for a makers mark...can be fun...and frustrating..simply because...if this was a bespoke item..then..it will most likely have the makers mark....but.it could be anything and anywhere..on the piece...what you have to do is go over this piece with a fine tooth comb...and note anything you see..that looks..out of place..different... whatever...also check the locks for makers names...the hinges...Bespoke furniture makers of this era were of what we call the Old Brigade...they were meticulous...even if this was made in a factory environment..it could still carry a mark...as it would have been hand finished...you could send pics and info to these people..they may be able to help...
http://www.achome.co.uk/antiques/furniture_research.htm
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That was gg27 and Bigwull that helped on this one !! You might keep in mind that Bigwull is in the UK and prices there are drastically different than in the US. !! Could bring considerably more here !! Especially if you can find a makers name on it !! I would say $2000. + !! You won`t find many of them here in the states !!
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Thank you both so very much~ Ok, tomorrow I will see what I can find. It is a very heavy piece so won't be able to get to back but I will carefully examine each drawer and interior with flashlight. Also hardware...locks look weird, keyhole is lower than catch hole on the back of door (it has small hooked brass piece on frame that fits into hole)
Maybe I can get close ups of more details tomorrow in good light (rare on Oregon coast!).
You've made my year!
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Beautiful chest! Can you take some close up pieces of construction on drawers, hardware on doors, etc.
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Ok, here are some close up shots of hardware...lock outside, inside and latch on frame.
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Drawer construction...dove tails, flat nails, glue joints.
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Next, pictures of inside construction and wood type. 2nd photo only damage not just wear and tear...back was re-paneled. 3rd photo is slide out shelf, last pic is bottom detail.
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Rest of original back piece is intact, what kind of wood do you think it is make out of? Oak or Mahogany? I also read maybe Satinwood, it does have a sheen and is slightly darker than flash photos. Lacquer only on parts that show.
In these photos, some of the numbers and marking on drawers. Last 2 pics it looks like an "L" in lower right hand corner?
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And finally....drum roll...this might be it after all these years...is this a date? I took a flashlight, removed all the drawers and found this marking inside the upper right back corner of the top. The confusing part is one 7 marking on the drawer backs is crossed like I make mine, the rest of the 7 markings are not crossed. It is obvious that 2 or more people marked parts, even inside on some of the drawer stops. So it looks like this may say 27/2/79, or maybe it is 21/2/19.. (the rest of the number, if any, is under glued piece of wood I don't want to remove to find out). The 1 markings on all drawers are loopy at top, these are not which makes me think they are 7s, if so that would be Feb 27, 1879 right? Did they use day, then month, then year like that? Also, did they sign '79 or did they sign 1879?
I am so enthralled with the history of this piece now. I was always drawn to it but now I just have to know all I can! I told my friend I am keeping it ;)
Thanks SO much for your time and knowledge everyone!
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From what I see it was not made in 1879 but it appears to have been refinished rather badly and that may have been in 1979 !! The pic of the inside of the drop down door looks like oak !! Refinishing would seriously affect value !! I don`t see the ageing of the wood that I was expecting !! If I were to guess when it was made,, after looking at these pics,, I would say more likely 40`s or 50`s !!
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Thanks Mart, there is a lot of wear on bottom of half the drawers, wood underneath shelves never lacquered like wood inside. Rest of drawers are finished better...this one had the bad drips.
Was it still made in the UK? The wood is fairly worn where drawers slide and doors touch, maybe the possible refinishing is masking the real wear and tear as it appears to be a very well used piece. Even 1940-50 is pretty old but do you think we should see ones very similar if it was that new? I haven't found one other picture of one like this.
Thanks again for all your help!
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Yes it is typical UK construction !! And it could be slightly earlier but I don`t think so !! Get some other opinions too !! But I just don`t see the age I expected !! That is not to say that its not a nice cabinet !! Its very well made !!
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I agree that it doesn't look aged like I thought it could be (to be antique which is 100 years or older). Also agree that someone has refinished the piece...rather amateurishly from the looks of some pics. Looks European to me as well....but with caution I say this because many cabinet makers came to the US and produced these items here...thus the look but made in the USA. (Forgive me if I don't remember where you are located.)
It is a well-loved and great looking piece...that I would recommend refinishing at some point...it will not hurt the value at this time and can only serve to improve the looks. (However, if you like the looks from the outside it does look good and current with today's "Pinterest" style - and I don't think you will have many folks walking in and inspecting the inside of your drawers/cabinet!) You don't often see the two column style with the columns like this...which makes it a great piece. Would be a keeper for me!!!!!!
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I think this was likely shipped here from the UK back in the 70`s when anything antique or even close to it was selling like hotcakes. There were buyers that paid pennies on the dollar for furniture in the UK and literally made a killing selling them here !! I bought quite a bit of it when I had my shop from a wholesaler that had a dip-strip vat !! He purchased it by the shipping container full !! At least it appears that this cabinet was saved from that fate !!
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Great mention of that Mart...so true. I got all my European pieces form import as well.
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Thanks SO much mart and KC! Ok, what about this summary:
Made: Still 40s-50s? (can we date this better by hardware or penciled "date" research, where would I go?)
Where: UK, possibly shipped to US up to the 70's
Wood: Oak
Finish: Terrible excuse for a refinish, not sure I liked it dark anyway but will leave it. I will say NO other older finish is visible anywhere on or inside piece, even the deep dados and small spaces inbewteen mouldings show raw light wood. Maybe it was a horrible first do?
Maker: Unknown UK
Value: ? (Really not sure now, what do you all think a fair home insurance value would be, right now it is $1K?)
Rarity: ?
I wish I could find out more but leaving some things unknown adds to the mystery and appeal of this piece to me.
You are all very helpful and I sure appreciate it.
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That summation would be pretty close !! And to tell the truth on furniture thats about as good as it gets !! It was probably pretty dark originally,, could be that someone just revarnished it !!
As to value for insurance purposes I would say that $1000. would be about right !! If original finish had been left,, probably double that !!
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Thanks so much mart... I love it no matter what! Happy New Year!
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if I may throw my tuppence worth in...I,have read with interest, what has been said..over the past few posts...and can agree with some of whats been said...but not with all,...i still hold that this piece is old...well older than 1979.... ;D...English furniture..like this piece..would normally have had cheaper woods used for the not in your eye...construction. ..and it was not uncommon to have a beautifully finished piece..that was made of expensive hardwoods...that had a softwood core...it was all down to the economics of the piece...A good way to check on how old a piece is...look for the type of glue that was used in its construction...the old glues were made of boiled down hooves.."it stank"...the colour of this glue when dried resembles the colour of cardboard..where as modern glue dries clear...I still hold that this is a mourning piece.....As for the mass importation of antiques to the US...during the late 60,s/70,s...it was like Christmas for the dealers over here..especially... if you had a shop near one of the many US bases,that were here...the old saying was.."if you can,t sell it here..stick it in a container and ship it to the US...they,ll buy anything"..... ;)
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Agree that it is much earlier than mid 20th century.
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I looked inside pretty carefully for tell tale dark glue lines but couldn`t see any !! Most of interior supports and runners just plain pine !! Just did not see the ageing of the wood that I expected from an older piece And all the joint lines were pretty darn tight,, so I an sticking with my opinion of 40`s or 50`s give or take a year or two !!
I wish it had been older !!
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bigwull, mart and ghopper1924, Thank you, I have trouble believing it isn't older than 1940. There is a LOT of wear and tear, some of the drawers the wood is worn much thinner, some VERY thin and worn completely gone in spots, some drawers look great! The glue inside is just the cardboard color you described (the camera flash made the wood look white too...it is more light amber inside), being familiar with glass chipping, I have worked with that same animal hoof stinky glue. The glue is definitely darker than wood color.
The woman I built $10K worth of stained glass windows for is a dealer in Las Vegas who "estimated" it's age at appx 1900. This piece came with a couple other gorgeous pieces I traded her that she got from a very old, wealthy woman's estate in CA (mild, temperate weather). The woman was over 100 when she died and her house was full of pampered pieces. The woman's daughter mentioned something to the dealer about this chest "on a ship" and that her mother had it when she was young. Let's say "young" was 30, she died at 100, that is 70 years, plus I got it almost 20 years ago. So that seems to be 90 years IF she got it new. Maybe that "ship" is how it came here, or perhaps it was built for a ship? I have always called it the "ship's chest", thought it was some sort of dresser that locked to keep things from falling out with the listing of a ship. When I heard some of these responses I started to question what the daughter had told my friend, the dealer. Everything else I got from her is genuine to what I was told at purchase.
All this estate's pieces were top notch and very well cared for many decades. With the super worn drawers there is hardly a way to have worn them to missing in parts in 60 years. I have pieces that old that look great and I do use them! I will go take pics of the really worn drawers.
I think if anything this may have had a re-varnish but the few pieces I have refinished (not my antiques) it is nearly impossible to remove every shred of old finish. I see NO other finish anywhere, most of it is not that badly done as that picture. You know, as an artist and glass blower, I have great days and the rare crappy days, I would never put out work like that but have seen plenty of it!
Is there ANY reference or old catalogs out there showing furniture for purchase during that time? Old hardware catalogs?
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If the runners are pine it would be difficult to determine age by them !! Pine is a very soft wood and can wear down pretty fast !! I have some 50`s furniture that are worn like that !! But I will wait to see the new pics !!
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Sorry, it takes awhile to get stuff out, take pics and reduce them to uploadable size.
Ok, first pics are drawer wear...2 middle drawers are worst.
The wood is worn through to missing and under 3/32th thick, most of the bottoms are a stout 1/8".
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Ok, now for better pics of glue color...still not right because of flash. Compared to the raw wood, the glue is very dark.
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Here is one of the other pieces I got from this woman's estate (through my dealer friend). I probably overpaid 20 years ago at $200 but I didn't care, I love this dresser. It is my favorite piece of all, although the "Wellington" chest is catching up with the history! Lousy pic but this piece (when not dusty) looks brand new except for faint loss of silvering on edges of mirror, the pulls are exquisite deco drops. The wooden wheels still roll fine, some wear. We were told by the daughter this was a gift to her mother and she got it new, I am the second owner of this piece (except the 3 days the dealer had it). There is a complete date written on bottom of drawer, how old do you all think this piece is? What type of wood?
Last pic is one of my older tiffany style lamps, the 16" waterlily. I have made several dozen lamps in 30 years in glass. I make them with the same exact glass manufacturers, hardware, and my best attempt at the precision and artistry of the incredible Louis Tiffany studio.
Thanks so much ALL of you, I appreciate every opinion and debate, this has been an adventure!
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If this chest is any younger than the very early 1900,s...I,d eat my hat...if I had one....I,ve seen examples like this...all the time...take that French style Wardrobe...that I got Avril a few months back...the whole frontage is made of Oregon Pine...and the carcase...is nothing short of being one step removed from an orange box...its the way furniture was made over here...in the late 1800,s/early 1900,s...I posted a link to an English company..on an earlier post...you could contact them...and they may be able to help....failing that you could send an email to Anita Manning...for a free valuation...see link...then click on valuations
http://www.greatwesternauctions.com/valuations.php
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Thank you bigwull! I did email that company but being holidays, haven't heard back yet. I feel from the woman's story (she, the daughter, was mid-seventies) that she was honest. The little dresser in last pic is exactly what she said it was. Someone in the UK like you would have seen more of the chest's type of furniture (and more authentic examples) than I am sure any of us see here.
I will contact Anita and then maybe start with hardware and key size (the common skeleton keys are too big). Do you recommend I try and turn the locks or not? Would be cool to see if they work if i can find a smaller key.
Cool the wardrobe is Oregon Pine...I have them growing on my property on the Oregon coast (South Beach).
I would be glad to send you a hat...just in case ya might actually like to wear it ;)
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Depends how you read the date written as well.
Is it the day/month/year.....or is it year/month/day? Depends on which country!
US form is actually the more traditional Anglo-Saxon way, but the British used the European form in the early 20th Century.
From the pics I can't say before 1900.
From my view (which isn't ever oh-so-clear) the numbers appear to be 27/2/19?
I would recommend you get a hands-on inspection. It is such a great piece!
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KC...over here in UK...we were taught from an early age...that its 23/6/1950...which also happens to be...my birthday.....i just thought i,d let you know well in advance....lest you forget nearer the time.... ;D
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Ca. 1900 sounds good for your chest, which might literally have been shipped on a ship. I'm with Wullie on this one. The refinish looks to be from the decade of horrible refinishing, the 1970s.
I'd say ca. 1925-35 on the vanity. Looks like oak. Nice looking piece!
Oh, and you did a beautiful job with the lamp.
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Are all the screws that secure the drop downs on the sides the same ??
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bigwull and KC, yes, it appears to be a 27, the last could be 19 or 79, but looks like the 7 to me...even so...IF there is another number after the 9..looks to be bottom of a 0...so could be 190_ which may still be in the end of the "Mourning" era.
ghopper, you nailed it on the dresser. The dates are 6/5/31 and initials M E, then on other side is stamp W.Anthony and under that 5/5/31. I was told in the 30's and that is was tiger oak so that makes me tend to believe more that the daughter was being honest. This piece is nearly perfect and it is 80 years old, the woman having it for 60 years, tells me she took VERY good care of her pieces. If so, that means this chest is at least 90 years old....so even the 190_ works. Thanks for the kudos on my lamp!
mart, I think so but will look later and see...
Happy New Year everyone!
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Glasschick, more times than not people are being honest...they just weren't given correct information from "recollections" and "Memories" of loved ones. It happens to all of us. I'm lucky to remember how to log in to this forum when it somehow logs out! :) At least they dated it!
Love the 3 panel mirror on that piece - very unique!!!! You don't see alot of these because they are more fragile!
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KC, yes, isn't that the truth! Well, the history on the chest is fascinating, sure has been fun! Thanks to everyone who gave me their imput and opinions here!
I love the little dresser/vanity too...the 3 mirrors is what I like most too. Although not an antique...a sweet piece! I just found those markings last night...should have looked sooner but glad you all got me motivated to start investigating some of my "antiques". ;)
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[ghopper, you nailed it on the dresser.
And yet, people continue to argue with me ;)
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Yeah, definitely a debate on this piece! I hope it didn't cause any rifts...not my intention at all. I REALLY appreciate the help from all of you and even more enthralled with the chest than ever! Thanks so much!
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No worries Glasschick. I was being more than a bit facetious.
Lots of knowledge on this board, and sometimes we disagree. As long as there is sound knowledge backing up an opinion then it's all good.
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:D
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No worries Glasschick. I was being more than a bit facetious.
Lots of knowledge on this board, and sometimes we disagree. As long as there is sound knowledge backing up an opinion then it's all good.
i,m :o.... ;D...
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LOVE your sense of humor Wullie, your info was also MUCH appreciated being more familiar with these type of UK pieces...you all made my year! Thanks! deb ;)
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That's the greatness of this forum. We all work and defend out opinions/knowledge...and many times get it right...and many times lean something new...and a few times agree to disagree! LOL
Love these threads that take time to decipher!
Thanks for sharing your treasures!
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I am still waiting to hear about those screws !! They look almost like galvanized or treated to prevent rust !!
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Tick-Tock-Tick-Tock...Time is flying by Mart! :)
I would like to know as well!!! Thanks....awaiting the reply! Tick-Tock...
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So sorry mart, thought I had answered you ;) The screws are almost all the same...a few odd newer ones. Most have rust on them (small amount....guess they are not brass?) and a ring of rust around them in the wood.
They are definitely not galvanized like my roof nails.....does that help?
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So sorry mart, thought I had answered you ;) The screws are almost all the same...a few odd newer ones. Most have rust on them (small amount....guess they are not brass?) and a ring of rust around them in the wood.
They are definitely not galvanized like my roof nails.....does that help?
if you,ve had your roof done recently...you,d have been better using copper nails...as galvanised ones ..will eventually corrode....an added benefit from using copper nails is....no moss or algae...will grow on a copper nailed roof....... :)
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Ha, Wullie, so true. Looks like we have similar climates...lots of rain and cloudy all the time. We still use galvanized nails...that is what they sell here for roofing. I agree copper would be much better. Roofs don't last long in the soaking wet Pacific Northwest!
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Too True...I,ve yet to meet a tourist in Scotland...who came here expecting to get a suntan....of late...everyone,i,ve spoken to have,...Noah....on their minds.... ;D
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Ah, as I type it is a deluge here, 1" in the last hour. I threaten to start my ark every winter. We have had record rain here...normally we have about 70" yearly, I am 1/8 mile from beach. March was a record for us with over 12" of rain, then at the end of March we got 7" of snow that literally pushed over 20' high rhodies and 60' pines! Not sure the yearly total but it is the 4rth wettest year in the last 80 years.
Since I am also in a Tsunami Zone I was thinking of just attaching a long board on the roof and if it does come I can just surf away, kowabunga! ;)
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LOL !! Move to NE Texas,, you will not have that problem !!
I just wish I could see this cabinet firsthand,, Rather than looking at pics !! Have you heard back from the person you emailed about it ?? That was you wasn`t it ??
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I wish I could mart...I am over the soggy coast up here..house is up for sale but nothings selling here right now...sigh!
Texas sounds great!
Yes, I emailed the 2 places Wullie suggested...still waiting. Sent them links to this thread as you all know WAY more than I do ;)
Like I said, most of the screws have a little rust on face and rings of it around screws, 2 of them are newer like they've been replaced. Should I try and unscrew one to see what the metal might be? Also, if I find a smaller key, should I try and turn locks?
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I would not do anything right now !! If you can find a key ( check antique shops, flea markets and ebay) you can find them easily !! When I had my shop I always had quite a few for those pieces that didn`t have one !! You just need to turn it easily and there should be a tiny bit of resistance when you hit the mechanism, then with slightly more pressure to turn it !! If it doesn`t budge,, could be that it needs a bit of lubricant !! WD 40 or such but not too much !! Let that sit a day or so and try again !!
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Thanks mart....do I spray a little through hole or should I use a q-tip and try and smear a little on? I will try and find a key. Not too many antique shops here but north an hour plenty, so next time I am up there I will try and find some smaller ones. What is the going rate for the keys?
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...What is the going rate for the keys?
I always charged $1 per key to everyone but good customers...those got them free. I never adjusted for inflation over the years, so it might not have been the best business plan. ::)
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I would just do one squirt into the lock and wipe off any excess !!
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I checked Ebay and they are a few lotsa that are pretty reasonable but since you are taking a shot in the dark buying a key I would go to a shop !! Maybe tell the shop owner what you have and see if they have any that might work !!
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Rauville, lol! Wish I'd known you when I was buying pieces!
mart, yes, what I thought...don't want to ruin that horrible finish, hahaha!
Ok, I will bring the one I have that's too big and that way I can guess what will fit.
You folks are awesome!
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would,nt it be easier to take the lock to the locksmith as opposed to crossing your fingers and tootsies hoping that with the next key you,ll hear that joyous click... ;D..having just espied Mart.s ever cautious post...once you,ve applied the duck oil....and allowed things to ease off,..spare a little for the screws..with a cotton bud...if you do decide to remove the screws holding the lock...make sure you use the correct sized blade...for the slotted head...and most importantly...be gentle.....when unscrewing.... ;D
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Thanks Wullie...will be very gentle, there's no rush ;) Don't know that I'll take a lock off....scared to even removed a screw! But will oil the screws with cotton bud and put a little in locks!
mart, sure wish you could see it in person....so hard to get decent pics of smaller stuff!
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I know it is !! Thats why we ask so many questions and occassionally come up with different interpretations of what we are looking at !! But,,, bunch of heads are better than one !!
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mart, I VERY much appreciate everyone's questions and opinions, I am such a novice but know what appeals to me! Everyone here has been so kind, so informative, and the humor...well...that is the best part! ;D
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If I was needing a key, I would go down to the hardware store and buy a couple of those cheap skeleton keys and a small file if you don't already have one. File and try...file and try...until you hopefully find the right combination that wiggles the lock. Then when you head to the antique shop, you have a rough pattern to go by.
Good Luck! (I have a feeling that this story could be coming out as a reality TV show someday. :D)
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Well over here we had the Forsyte Saga....why not...The Saga of the Wellington Chest....starring.. ...blah...blah...bl ah....and me.... ;D
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Yeah Mart, but our water comes in ice form....we get more hails than the queen!!!! Right?!
Meltwater rushes past hail several feet thick on Wednesday off Highway 287 north of Amarillo, Texas. (Those aren't rocks people - just small hailstorms that accumulate!!!)
(http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/g-cvr-120412-hail-1235p.photoblog600.jpg)
(http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/replicate/EXID17323/images/06122010_BNVN_SunrayTX_Hail4Inchers.jpg)
1976 we had them the size of grapefruit! To say the least, the insurance companies don't like it here in spring or fall! We generally get hail at the front of every storm front...and we get alot of them here. Generally peanut size...but they start dinting cars at pingpong ball size up.
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We don`t get much hail here and what we get is only blackeyed pea size and I am only about 2 1/2 hours from Dallas !! Only remember quarter size when I lived in Mesquite !!
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would that be Mesquite...Texas..o r Nevada....and while i,m on about Mesquite....is this stuff any good....
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That would be Mesquite, Texas !! From where I lived you could chunk a rock and hit the Mesquite Championship Rodeo !! Not sure but I think they either moved the rodeo or built 635 around it somewhere !! Don`t know about the bottled smoke !! Never touch the stuff myself !!
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Oh My !! Thats a shock to the system !! Just looked at a map !! Where I lived on Orchid isn`t there any more,, Hickory tree RD is now Rodeo Drive and what looks like the place where Potter Lane was is now Neal Gay Drive !! The Brick yard isn`t there !! Who would have thought that after 30 + years they would have changed all that ?? At least they left Peachtree Rd !! I might be able to find Five Points again !! Bet they have done away with Zip City too !! Shame on them !!
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Rauville, thanks for the key info, great idea filing it down! As far as the reality TV..I've seen worse shows...at least I would watch this one, lol!
As Wullie said...."The Wellington Chest Saga of "'12-'13", and so on the saga goes.....it might actually make for a great show!
KC, WOW...ok, I will not complain about our tiny golf ball sized hail...that is an amazing picture!
Wullie, when I lived in Vegas (yeah, yuck!) we used mesquite wood for BBQ...actually pretty tasty...hate the fake smoke flavors!
It has been so rainy here trees are literally falling down with huge root balls lifting up from ground! I now have a natural pond...full of ground water. Not as pretty as the koi pond (which stays nice and full here...) my guess is 90" this year, well over our average!
This is a riot...I love it!
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My guess is you are in Pacific NW ?? Northern CA !!
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mart...dead center on Oregon coast, the "other" (not famous) South Beach...about 1/8 mile from beach.
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That would be Mesquite, Texas !! From where I lived you could chunk a rock and hit the Mesquite Championship Rodeo !! Not sure but I think they either moved the rodeo or built 635 around it somewhere !! Don`t know about the bottled smoke !! Never touch the stuff myself !!
..yeah!.I remember.......you led a sheltered life... ;D...
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Mart, that whole area has been "made over" and from that corner of 635 almost all the way to Terrell on 80 and 20 and 30...is still under construction! The nightmare continues!
Good advice from different viewpoints about the key. I always buy antique keys when I come across them cheaply! Never know if you will get the right one...need one down the line...or just fill a bowl with them for people to fiddle with for fun! You would be surprised!
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and when you,re trying them....99%..of the time its the second but last that does the trick....
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Mart, that whole area has been "made over" and from that corner of 635 almost all the way to Terrell on 80 and 20 and 30...is still under construction! The nightmare continues!
Good advice from different viewpoints about the key. I always buy antique keys when I come across them cheaply! Never know if you will get the right one...need one down the line...or just fill a bowl with them for people to fiddle with for fun! You would be surprised!
Some of the roads I couldn`t even find !! And I have ridden, driven or walked every inch of that area !! Hard to see it now in highways rather than country roads !! At least this little town is slower to change !!
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Sorry I'm still a newbie,but this is getting ridiculous. I appreciate all the help I've received for my items,but if I wanted to know the weather I would watch the weather network. My point being if one was to post an ANTIQUE question it had already fallen down list. No disrespect. Hoping the moderator doesn't oust me for this. (Probably made it worse didn't I)
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Looking back at the page of questions,, I don`t see anything that wasn`t covered as well as we possibility could !! One thing you forget, this is not an impersonal site where you give an answer and then,, the heck with it !! We are also friends no matter if we know each person personally or not !! And sometimes thats what friends do,, chit chat and talk about things not related to this forum weather included !! Breaks the monotany for many of us !!
Is there something you need help with ?? We keep a pretty close eye on new posts !!
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Buddie11, welcome to the forum of CRAZIES that give advice/research/tidbits of joy and wisdom for FREE!!!!
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Sorry for the comments guys,hope I didn't overstay my welcome. I'm a newish collector, still looking for new treasures that I will need help with,your advice is appreciated. Thanks
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Buddie11, You are more than welcome to bring your treasures (antique/vintage) here. We will try our best to help you figure out the mystery. Along the way, we may get sidetracked (Kind of like right now) with occasional updates on life/places...and then at times we may inadvertently hijack a thread, but we will always try our best to help the question get resolved.
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I would suggest, as a new collector,, you join in the conversations and become a part of our forum !! The personal attention to our members both old and new is what keeps this forum at the top of the search list !! You don`t need a personal invitation,, we welcome all,, even if its about the weather !! Please post anything you may have that you need help with,,but if we do not get on it immediately,, don`t think we aren`t researching it !!
If the item could be found easily,, you would not need us to help,, so do give it a day or so !!
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I think it was Henry Ward Beecher that said: "Good humor makes all things tolerable".
That's what I like about this group. You get more than just information...you can get a smile too! ;D
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Sorry I'm still a newbie,but this is getting ridiculous. I appreciate all the help I've received for my items,but if I wanted to know the weather I would watch the weather network. My point being if one was to post an ANTIQUE question it had already fallen down list. No disrespect. Hoping the moderator doesn't oust me for this. (Probably made it worse didn't I)
.... ::)....this is me being polite.....your,lucky i was,nt feeling too well yesterday.........b ut you know the old saying.....if you don,t like it...you can lump it.....
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Whoops, so sorry Buddie....I didn't mean to pull everyone off the subject! It really has been fun, super informative and I am sorry if they missed posting information you may have needed!
I just really was hoping to get a little information on the chest...but these folks here are super knowledgeable and I am very grateful!
The humor here is priceless, I feel like I made some new friends! This is the only piece I have that I just had no clue about so I am pretty sure
this will be the last "epic" debate I start!
Thanks and hugs to all!
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Rauville, love that quote!
KC and mart...thanks!
Wullie....hope you feel better! ;)
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Sorry again, but on the bright side hockey is back. (I'm Canadian). Hockey in Canada is like soccer or "football" in Europe.
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LOL !! It is that time of year !! Cold weather is good for something I guess !!
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Whoops, so sorry Buddie....I didn't mean to pull everyone off the subject! It really has been fun, super informative and I am sorry if they missed posting information you may have needed!
I just really was hoping to get a little information on the chest...but these folks here are super knowledgeable and I am very grateful!
The humor here is priceless, I feel like I made some new friends! This is the only piece I have that I just had no clue about so I am pretty sure
this will be the last "epic" debate I start!
Thanks and hugs to all!
You have no need to apologise...if anything...a grovel should be coming your.way...begging forgiveness...is,nt that right Buddie....
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Sorry again, but on the bright side hockey is back. (I'm Canadian). Hockey in Canada is like soccer or "football" in Europe.
mmm,Canadian.....well, that probably means your either a descendant of a frog...or God forbid a Haggis.... ;D
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Not quit sure if that was a stab or not bigwull, most likely because us all Canadians are always hopped up on molson Canadian beer and back bacon. That's good stuff eh?
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If it was a stab...you,d have felt the point...long before now..... ;D.....and there,s nowt wrong with Canadian beer..and Back Bacon....at least your beer is better than that hijacked piss....Bud.... ;D
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Bigwull you seem like quite the character, if I am ever on your side of the pond,maybe we could sit down and have drink. I will have a warm guiness and you will have your scotch. Happy happy!
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I,ll take that as a compliment.......as I,ve been called much worse..... ;D....
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Hey Buddie11,, after reading the last few posts,, you can see how we sometimes get sidetracked !! Just one big family here and now,, you are an official member of the family !!
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mart....perfect analogy!
Wullie.... I must say you are a sweet chap, chivalry doesn't go unnoticed by me... ;)....thank you much!
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Thanks mart,guess i contradicted myself and glasschick I would take my foot of snow over all that rain! By the way bigwull is one tough son of a b::::h
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Warm welcome to the forum Buddie (inspite of the bloody snow)......another Canuck here. And really, Wullie is more like a big marshmallow........ with a coating of crushed glass.
Now I'd better go back into hiding before his big stomping boot finds my arse. ;)
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buddie...
I though you were going to say "I would take my foot............ out of my mouth".....hmmm.....
We've had over a foot of snow here this year as well as 90" of rain...but blowing glass keeps the cold away as well as the top-notch Willamette Valley Pinot Noir!
My opinion of Wullie is smart, sweet, wry (and dry, love it), and just plain adorable, thank goodness for differences of opinion!
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My opinion of Wullie is smart, sweet, wry (and dry, love it), and just plain adorable
OMG! Can't wait for him to read this!! Better yet, can't wait till Avril sees it.......I REALLY want to hear her response! :D
Ya know we love ya Wullie!! (BTW, you got that new house in order yet??)
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And really, Wullie is more like a big marshmallow........ with a coating of crushed glass.
Ah, Sapphire....you had me at "coating of crushed glass", no wonder I like Wullie so much!
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My opinion of Wullie is smart, sweet, wry (and dry, love it), and just plain adorable
OMG! Can't wait for him to read this!! Better yet, can't wait till Avril sees it.......I REALLY want to hear her response! :D
Ya know we love ya Wullie!! (BTW, you got that new house in order yet??)
UH oh....don't want his lass to hunt me down!
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My opinion of Wullie is smart, sweet, wry (and dry, love it), and just plain adorable
OMG! Can't wait for him to read this!! Better yet, can't wait till Avril sees it.......I REALLY want to hear her response! :D
Ya know we love ya Wullie!! (BTW, you got that new house in order yet??)
UH oh....don't want his lass to hunt me down!
She'll have to stop laughing and pick herself up off the floor first. ;-)
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Totally forgot to mention I LOVE your cabinet.......you can park that in my front room anytime, no appointment necessary. ;)
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Sapphire, you really are a gem ;) Well, if Avril laughs that hard it'll give me a head start!
Thanks, I just loved this chest as soon as I saw it...it is SO nice to know some history on it! I'm glad
I turned down the $1K offer....it is worth a lot more to me just to be able to enjoy it longer!
Ok, gotta get my running shoes on before Wullie gets back.....plus headed out to studio to blow glass today...back later!
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Purrrrrrrrrrr...... .and you were almost right...Avril did,nt fall...but she nearly choked..... ;D ;D
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Thank that dear woman of yours for me Wullie.....she sure is/has a keeper ;)
Glad I didn't have to put those shoes on...can't run well in my Birks!
Cute poster....I wonder what my cats do all day while I am out in the studio....