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Title: From 1800's Vase marked 1666 3 on bottom? Is it Italian,German who is maker?
Post by: antiquequest on March 01, 2013, 02:49:46 pm: 19.5 inches tall. Thanks for any help!!
Title: Re: From 1800's Vase marked 1666 3 on bottom? Is it Italian,German who is maker?
Post by: greenacres on March 01, 2013, 02:52:03 pm: You need to post a photo. Hit additional options, and make sure you crop and resize your photo.
Title: Re: From 1800's Vase marked 1666 3 on bottom? Is it Italian,German who is maker?
Post by: mart on March 01, 2013, 03:01:23 pm: You rarely can tell anything from a number !! Need to see the vase and the bottom of it !! What makes you think its from the 1800`s ??
Title: Re: From 1800's Vase marked 1666 3 on bottom? Is it Italian,German who is maker?
Post by: antiquequest on March 01, 2013, 03:44:05 pm: Posted pics'
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Post by: antiquequest on March 01, 2013, 03:52:51 pm: Owner of Estate Sale "agent" says they are from the 1800's. They want $2250 for the set. They where at $4000.
Title: Re: From 1800's Vase marked 1666 3 on bottom? Is it Italian,German who is maker?
Post by: Ipcress on March 01, 2013, 04:00:54 pm: Wouldn't touch them with a barge pole.
Title: Re: From 1800's Vase marked 1666 3 on bottom? Is it Italian,German who is maker?
Post by: antiquequest on March 01, 2013, 04:06:46 pm: Any particular reason Ipcress??
Title: Re: From 1800's Vase marked 1666 3 on bottom? Is it Italian,German who is maker?
Post by: antiquequest on March 01, 2013, 04:23:12 pm: Can't find any other markings on bottom of this vase other than what is stated above. 1666 3
Title: Re: From 1800's Vase marked 1666 3 on bottom? Is it Italian,German who is maker?
Post by: Ipcress on March 01, 2013, 04:28:24 pm: Quote from: antiquequest on March 01, 2013, 04:06:46 pm
Any particular reason Ipcress??

They look odd, the colours seem wrong, the gilding is poor. Such a vague description from the seller also suggests they don't know.

Are they porcelain ?
Title: Re: From 1800's Vase marked 1666 3 on bottom? Is it Italian,German who is maker?
Post by: antiquequest on March 01, 2013, 04:30:50 pm: Yes porcelain.
Title: Re: From 1800's Vase marked 1666 3 on bottom? Is it Italian,German who is maker?
Post by: mart on March 01, 2013, 06:23:02 pm: Post a good pic of the bottom please !! That will help on judging age !! Look pretty new to me !!
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Post by: antiquequest on March 01, 2013, 06:31:27 pm: I will Mart. Sat morning. Thanks for the help!!
Title: Re: From 1800's Vase marked 1666 3 on bottom? Is it Italian,German who is maker?
Post by: antiquequest on March 01, 2013, 07:37:59 pm: If it helps bottom is white porcelain and looks pretty clean.
Title: Re: From 1800's Vase marked 1666 3 on bottom? Is it Italian,German who is maker?
Post by: bigwull on March 01, 2013, 07:45:56 pm: Whilst they are not my cup of tea,....either,..until we know more about them...we can only guesstimate.their value,.I would take what the estate agent says with a large pinch of salt,after all he is only trying to l maximise his commission...and he is dangling the carrot....by saying they have been reduced from $4000...to $2250...my advice would be...if you have this kind of money to spend...do not be fooled by sales talk...find yourself a named piece..that at least can be verified...
Title: Re: From 1800's Vase marked 1666 3 on bottom? Is it Italian,German who is maker?
Post by: mart on March 01, 2013, 07:55:43 pm: Quote from: antiquequest on March 01, 2013, 07:37:59 pm
If it helps bottom is white porcelain and looks pretty clean.

That would be a problem !! Nothing from the 1800`s can sit around anywhere and stay very clean !! I don`t care how good a housekeeper they are !! We can tell more with the pic !! From the pics above,, they look like pretty new repros !! Even if they are that old,, they would have to have a quality makers mark to be worth that much even after price was reduced !! There is certainly no age showing in the pics !!
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Post by: antiquequest on March 03, 2013, 11:26:10 am: Thanks everyone for your help! I decided to stay away from those vases ;D
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Post by: greenacres on March 03, 2013, 11:47:11 am: You should have asked for some documentation of some kind to prove the price you were paying for it.
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Post by: antiquequest on March 03, 2013, 12:09:53 pm: They only knew what they where telling me. Which wasn't much.

They had nothing to back-up what they where asking for the vases.

So I took a pass ;)
Title: Re: From 1800's Vase marked 1666 3 on bottom? Is it Italian,German who is maker?
Post by: bigwull on March 07, 2013, 09:38:38 am: I sent pics of these 2 "fine Specimans"...to Great Western Auctions...for a valuation...this is there response

Thank you for your e-mail.

From your image your vases look like they are Victorian glass vases. Either hand painted or transfer printed.

At auction I would expect them to fetch in the region of £50-100.

If you wish to consign them for auction, please bring them in Tuesday to Thursday 10am-4pm.

Kind regards

Claire Godwyn
Auction Manager, Auctioneer & Valuer
Great Western Auctions
1291 Dumbarton Road
Glasgow G14 9UY
Title: Re: From 1800's Vase marked 1666 3 on bottom? Is it Italian,German who is maker?
Post by: antiquequest on March 07, 2013, 07:46:24 pm: Haha.. 'bout $150 each. Glad I walked :o

Thanks for that info!
Title: Re: From 1800's Vase marked 1666 3 on bottom? Is it Italian,German who is maker?
Post by: bigwull on March 07, 2013, 08:21:15 pm: Quote from: antiquequest on March 07, 2013, 07:46:24 pm
Haha.. 'bout $150 each. Glad I walked :o

Thanks for that info!
I bet you are....and these Auctioneers/Valuers are well known in the UK..just google Anita Manning..and you,ll see how big they are...they know what they are talking about...but i,m glad i was able to help....
Title: Re: From 1800's Vase marked 1666 3 on bottom? Is it Italian,German who is maker?
Post by: Ipcress on March 08, 2013, 05:44:43 am: Seriously doubt they're Victorian, and £150 ?!
Title: Re: From 1800's Vase marked 1666 3 on bottom? Is it Italian,German who is maker?
Post by: bigwull on March 08, 2013, 07:35:20 am: Quote from: Ipcress on March 08, 2013, 05:44:43 am
Seriously doubt they're Victorian, and £150 ?!
No one has said they Are Victorian...nor have they said there.worth £150...but seeing as how you would,nt touch them with your ever present barge pole...perhaps you will enlighten us with your superior knowledge..
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Post by: greenacres on March 08, 2013, 08:11:17 am: ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: From 1800's Vase marked 1666 3 on bottom? Is it Italian,German who is maker?
Post by: mart on March 08, 2013, 03:03:19 pm: Just Victorian style !! But later !!
Title: Re: From 1800's Vase marked 1666 3 on bottom? Is it Italian,German who is maker?
Post by: Ipcress on March 10, 2013, 01:51:25 pm: Quote from: bigwull on March 08, 2013, 07:35:20 am
Quote from: Ipcress on March 08, 2013, 05:44:43 am
Seriously doubt they're Victorian, and £150 ?!
No one has said they Are Victorian.

What does it say in that e-mail you posted ? " look like they are Victorian glass " Hence my comment.
Title: Re: From 1800's Vase marked 1666 3 on bottom? Is it Italian,German who is maker?
Post by: bigwull on March 10, 2013, 02:06:44 pm: Exactly...they "look like"...Not they are...
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Post by: mart on March 10, 2013, 03:43:31 pm: You have to learn to translate Bigwull`s posts !! ;)
Title: Re: From 1800's Vase marked 1666 3 on bottom? Is it Italian,German who is maker?
Post by: Ipcress on March 10, 2013, 04:29:30 pm: Quote from: bigwull on March 10, 2013, 02:06:44 pm
Exactly...they "look like"...Not they are...

And so i can't still state my opinion that they aren't " I seriously doubt they're Victorian " is perfectly reasonable after that.

You've been sniping ever since that coat of arms discussion
Title: Re: From 1800's Vase marked 1666 3 on bottom? Is it Italian,German who is maker?
Post by: bigwull on March 10, 2013, 04:39:55 pm: Oh! dear...you sound annoyed....shall we call a truce...or would you prefer.."Handbags at Dawn" ;D...