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Antiques! => Antique Questions Forum => Topic started by: cutnshoot84 on April 26, 2013, 02:00:31 am
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I came across this at a garage sale. The people I got it from said it came from Colorado but didn't know much more. It is made of 2 types of metal. The majority is made of a really hard alloy but not sure what it is and the other is what looks like some sort of brass sheeting. The main part is very hard metal and the 2 pieces are brazed together. Small snips were made that overlaid the metal it was joined to and then brazed so that it doesn't leak. The bottom has some dents that were intentionally made so that the can wont tip over after setting it down. There doesn't seem to be much rust , or oxidation from the elements. It is a really cool looking piece but I can't find out anything about it, where it was made or for what reason it was made. I am also wondering if it might be worth anything as well as if it is a one of a kind , single made can or if there might be others similar to mine.
If you are looking at picture #3 , the widest part is 4 3/4"
The side view ( narrow view ) is 3 1/2"
The width of the neck is 1 3/8" from the side, front, or back
The height is 6"
The ID of the hole in the top is 1 1/2"
The OD of the hole on the top is 2 7/16"
The 1st pic is of a cd/dvd next to it to judge the size of it.
Thanks to anyone who might be able to shed some light on it.
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looks like a big brass door knob....
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or some kind of perfume bottle sans stopper.
It IS kind of cool looking... 8)
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I can almost visualize that as being an old brass bar rail fitting that someone took the time to remodel.
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How big is it ??
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How big is it ??
the approx size is in the first post......why they could,nt just measure with a ruler..is anyone,s guess....
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How big is it ??
If you are looking at picture #3 , the widest part is 4 3/4"
The side view ( narrow view ) is 3 1/2"
The width of the neck is 1 3/8" from the side, front, or back
The height is 6"
The ID of the hole in the top is 1 1/2"
The OD of the hole on the top is 2 7/16"
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Have you looked inside with a penlight ?? Is it smooth or rough !!
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Sort of looks like a foot from a brass bed , to me .
I'm wondering if the 'unknown alloy' allows a magnet to stick to it ?
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Foot?...try the other end....they come in all sizes....
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ORIGINAL-VICTORIAN-CAST-IRON-AND-BRASS-BED-END-ONLY-/271184818079
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Sort of looks like a foot from a brass bed , to me .
I'm wondering if the 'unknown alloy' allows a magnet to stick to it ?
Yes the main metal is magnetic but the brass is not as you would know or expect.
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so it must have a thin covering of brass over steel or cast,iron
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so it must have a thin covering of brass over steel or cast,iron
I only tried an average weak ice box magnet and it didn't stick where the brass was at. I will try a little stronger magnet later.
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If its from a brass bed it will not sit up as it is !! Normally they are made of lighter weight sheet brass !! And it would only be hollow where the ball screws onto the headboard or footboard and you can feel the threads !! I would guess this is a container or small vase that was covered with something up to the solid color brass collar !!
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If its from a brass bed it will not sit up as it is !!...
First post describes it as having: "The bottom has some dents that were intentionally made so that the can wont tip over after setting it down."
This piece still looks to me as having a hole in each side that was patched with sheet brass. Something, such as a railing tube might have passed through it originally. I can envision someone spending time converting this from scrap metal to a vessel for whatever the reason might be. Maybe it did come from a historical location in Colorado at one time and was saved for a background that has been lost to time.
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Right Rauville !! Forgot about that !! But if from a railing the repairs would be the same on both sides and the neck would have to be attached !! Just don`t see that someone would go to that trouble !! Another thing I would like to know is the weight and approx. thickness !!
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The item weight approx. 1 pd or less.
The main body is approx. .040-.050 thick
The brass top sheeting is approx. .010-.020 thick
I don't know if you can really see it but the front and back ( looking at the widest view left to right ) has to pieces of the same kind of metal that the main body is made of that are joined to the main body. The front and back pieces have numerous tabs that overlap the main body and then were brazed to make an air tight seal. You can see how nice and pretty evenly the sections were joined to the main body. Someone take a lot of time and put a lot of effort into cutting , joining and sealing this thing together. I don't really know what the main body is made of but the outer shell doesn't seem to rust , yet the inner shell has minor surface rust. You can see what I call the "patina" of the outside and how it is smooth and vet very smooth on the inside and outside. As I mentioned , the metal , which is magnetic, is very hard and solid. You would have to beat on it pretty hard to dent it , considering the thickness of the shell.
There was a lot of time put into just the top brass part. Very small rivets of brass were made and flattened to connect the brass , which turned out very nice and very smooth.
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There was a lot of time put into just the top brass part.
There was a lot, lot more time expended in cutting n' fitting those face plates of either side of it.
Which makes me think it is a "one-of-a-kind" ..... study in metal forming.
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Metalworking shop project ?? Cogar ? Possible !! Can think of no better reason they went to the trouble of making something so common looking !!