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Antiques! => Antique Questions Forum => Topic started by: Jellytip on August 24, 2013, 09:23:35 pm
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This was a family members possibly in the second half of the 19th c. He was a dentist/entrepreneur/traveller and we have so many amazing things left from him. We were told this was his spittoon at work, and that the stand was added at an unknown date. I would love to know what parts were added when, if we have the age right, and if it actually a spittoon as I cannot find anything like it!
Some of the photos have unfortunately distorted, but it stands about 80cm high and the lid is about 40cm across.
(http://i.imgur.com/gwgEUp7.jpg)
All four sides are the same
(http://i.imgur.com/UPgvtKj.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/BqfHNyF.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/8q0tkpY.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/V16UXQ8.jpg)
The circle on the lid appears to have been cut completely out, but is stuck back in place now.
(http://i.imgur.com/IhH9XbF.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Ed6DmNm.jpg)
The floor of the inside isn't attached.
(http://i.imgur.com/wJAT8uJ.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/ol88IMx.jpg)
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Wow beautiful! I'm guessing the spitton itself is missing???
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I guess so too, the family refers to it as the spittoon and have not seen an insert. I'd just love to see another one even slightly similar!
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This is a nice piece, Jellytip, but it has me scratching my head.
I would have thought that a spittoon used by a dentist, even back during the infancy of dentistry, would have been something that could easily have been sluiced, a small hand-held pot would have done the trick.
The second thing that I find confusing, is why the lid is not hinged?
Any thoughts?
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I've just asked for more details, all I could get was that he took his dental practice around on a horse and cart, and the current location of the bowl that sat in the lid is unknown.
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-collectible-dental-dentist-cuspidor-spitoon-/330991743712?nma=true&si=vPB%252BA5iixZeE05SGMTlHRVrgM2g%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-collectible-dental-dentist-cuspidor-spitoon-/330991743712?nma=true&si=vPB%252BA5iixZeE05SGMTlHRVrgM2g%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
So something similar to this sat inside my one? How awesome! Thank you!
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Well found, Bigwull!
Well, Jellytip, yours seems to be a Rolls-Royce example by comparison!
I've had an idea as to why it wasn't hinged, but I'm not sure about the strength of the argument, so best leave it where it is!
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I've had an idea as to why it wasn't hinged, but I'm not sure about the strength of the argument, so best leave it where it is!
I do love a good theory, feel free to share!
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I've had an idea as to why it wasn't hinged, but I'm not sure about the strength of the argument, so best leave it where it is!
I do love a good theory, feel free to share!
I suppose if you're going to be afraid of being shot down, you should never open your mouth ... OK, here goes.
Looking at the style of the lid it would not lend itself to completely folding back (by 270 degrees) (that has only been basically thought through). Having a lid that sat upright might not be a good idea in that sort of environment; it would also require some sort of support, which would be an inconvenience, otherwise there's be too much strain on the hinges.
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A cabinet to hold a spitoon maybe. I'd say it's ca. 1870 and could be worth a tidy sum.
I've never seen anything like it.
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How large is this cabinet ?? Who put the piece on the bottom of the lid ?? The color matches the lid itself so was it put on when it was made ?? Something isn`t right about the spitoon theory
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there you go again..opening your mouth before engaging the gears.....just as i do frequently.... ;D...check out the first post by the topic provider and you will see that they have given the sizes..... so there..... ;D
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there you go again..opening your mouth before engaging the gears.....just as i do frequently.... ;D...check out the first post by the topic provider and you will see that they have given the sizes..... so there..... ;D
Where have you been ?? Don`t you ever open your mail ?? Yes they did, but as I can`t convert centimeters to feet and inches without leaving here I figured someone would tell me !!
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there you go again..opening your mouth before engaging the gears.....just as i do frequently.... ;D...check out the first post by the topic provider and you will see that they have given the sizes..... so there..... ;D
Where have you been ?? Don`t you ever open your mail ?? Yes they did, but as I can`t convert centimeters to feet and inches without leaving here I figured someone would tell me !!
Roughly 30" x 15" or thereabouts ;)
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Can you imagine trying to haul this thing with a horse and wagon ?? Especially with that stand its on !! And that oval hole ?? What country is this from ?? Your location ??
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Can you imagine trying to haul this thing with a horse and wagon ?? Especially with that stand its on !! And that oval hole ?? What country is this from ?? Your location ??
I'm in New Zealand, the dentist emigrated here from Europe in the 2nd half of 19thc. We dont know where the stand came from. You guys now know all the details I do, does anyone know anyone who is an expert in whatever this may be?
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there you go again..opening your mouth before engaging the gears.....just as i do frequently.... ;D...check out the first post by the topic provider and you will see that they have given the sizes..... so there..... ;D
Where have you been ?? Don`t you ever open your mail ?? Yes they did, but as I can`t convert centimeters to feet and inches without leaving here I figured someone would tell me !!
..i coulnt find all the toys that i chucked out of my pram.... ;D....and just so you don,t have to leave here....here,s a conversion chart for you...now don,t say i,m not good to you...... ;D
http://www.initium.demon.co.uk/converts/metimp.htm
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I could be wrong, but those side panels look like burr yew .... or am I way off?
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you,re not far off i was thinking burr elm....i,m busy making a dining table at the moment and the top is burr elm..as will be the chairs....and what i,ve got here is a dead ringer for whats here....
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LOL !! Yes Wullie you are very good to me !!! Only form of math I am good at is money !!
Its not a wood I am familiar with !! But its gorgeous !! I want to see that table,,Wullie !!
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Can you imagine trying to haul this thing with a horse and wagon ?? Especially with that stand its on !! And that oval hole ?? What country is this from ?? Your location ??
I'm in New Zealand, the dentist emigrated here from Europe in the 2nd half of 19thc. We dont know where the stand came from. You guys now know all the details I do, does anyone know anyone who is an expert in whatever this may be?
..i should,ve known you were ..down under....what with the upside down electrical socket under the box..... ;D
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It's the right way around, I swear!! I think I may have found who originally had the box, he came here from the UK sometime between 1851-67. He is listed as a dentist and sailor. I'll get on the phone with my Grandmother soon and see if I can get more details out of her :)
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Well, If that's where its from,,its up to Bigwull, Mario and Ipcress to figure this one out !!