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Antiques! => Antique Questions Forum => Topic started by: Falcon55 on November 01, 2014, 09:00:16 am
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Hi,
found these on a local flee market in Hungary. The seller was absolutely sure they are silver and gave a money back guarantee (he also has an antique shop). They really feel like silver, but have no stamps. The seller thought they might be oriental made. Any comments would be great!
Thank you!
Jack
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More pictures
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Look like indian silver sugar pots. Here is a cup & saucer in a very similar design
http://www.pinterest.com/pin/217228382001051713/
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Found some similar looking ones with google image search, try: repousse silver footed salt cellars
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Thank you very much - the Indian tea set actually looks quite similar. The background looks also chiselled in the same manner.
Great help! And it also seems to be for salt - there avtually is one original glass "inlay" - the other on is modern.
Thanks again!
Jack
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If they are salt cellars they would all have had glass liners !! Salt will literally eat the silver and leave it black and stained !! Often the liners are lost over time !! If you have one left maybe you can find a match at other flea markets !!
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Thank you everybody! Great informations in such a short time. Any ideas how old they might be? The tea set from Ocky´s link from 1880 looked quite similar.
One glass liner looks antique, the other one is sure modern but fits in the size.
Cheers, Jack
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Hi Falcon55/Jack!
Nice having you on the forum and sharing your treasures with us. Some really pretty salt cellars.
It isn't unusual to see older pieces with new glass liners in them. The glass pieces are easily broken over time and then the search is on to find a "newer/modern" replacement to fit the item properly.
It is really hard to tell when your piece is made since there isn't an exact silver hallmark to help identify the maker. But, due to the style and decoration as well as the actual piece itself (salt shakers became more popular in early/mid 1900's and disposable containers with pouring spouts)....I would venture that your piece CAN RANGE anywhere from late 1800's to early 1900's.
Can you please post a picture of what you describe as the "original" liner. That could help in determining! Thanks!
ALSO, if you ever find some silver TRENCHER SALTS....they are worth more and some are amazing in the values they demand! Here's an example of one below. They are a "trench" in a base/pedestal. This one is on display at the Metropolitan Museum of Art but you can just search and see beautiful examples.
(http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~silversmiths/makers/silversmiths/82066_1_salt2.jpg)
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Pic didn`t load KC !! Just the black box with an X !!
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Strange, I looked at it with my sign in, without my sign in and with another. It all shows up for me. I sent another msg to dontbe about the site.
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Thank you very much KC,
I can see the embedded picture fine. I´ll take a picture of the glass liner soon.
Best regards,
Jack
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Its showing up now !! Maybe I didn`t wait long enough !!
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So, now I finally got up to make some more photos.
Here the glass liner.
And here a new "pot" similar to the ones - but not quite as well made and also in a different design being open on the bottom. Also an oriental salt cellar?
Thank you!
Jack
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Here with an inside view.
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What is the size of this new one? Could be a salt cellar...but it makes me think more of a mustard pot. Notice the liner prevents the "contents" from touching the silver? Mustard is acidic and would greatly affect the silver...thus the lip on the liner.
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Looks to me as Djokja silver from Indonesia . Have a look with google on this name
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Hello KC, the size is quite the same as the salt cellars. The Diameter on top is 45 mm.
Hello gerspee, thank you for your help. There is a similarity in design.
In total the quality of the salt cellars ist finer than of the third "pot".
Jack