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Title: antique china
Post by: sestern on February 27, 2016, 07:29:34 pm

I have a full dinner set for 12 including a tea set and a soup tureen the stamp on the back is Hutschenreuther Arzberg Bavaria Germany Iris .On top of that marking is  the number 1840 with an oval inside is Mayer Wiesau (as afar as I can read it) with a crown. It is a white set with gold trim design.  I am attaching a picture of the stamp on the back and the design of the set. My email address is sestern1870@gmail.com. Thank you for responding.

Title: Re: antique china
Post by: Pelady on February 27, 2016, 08:14:17 pm

Western,

You didn't ask any questions.  What do you want to know about the China?
PeLady

Title: Re: antique china
Post by: sestern on February 28, 2016, 08:41:58 am

Trying to find current value. Would like to sell.

Title: Re: antique china
Post by: mart on February 28, 2016, 04:21:53 pm

You probably need to go to replacements.com and ask them for a quote !! Selling an entire set is difficult on the sale sites like ebay !!

Title: Re: antique china
Post by: sestern on February 28, 2016, 09:15:35 pm

Do you know the date the set was manufactured? Also what does the markings in the oval stand for above the Hutschenreuther mark?

Title: Re: antique china
Post by: KC on February 28, 2016, 11:24:54 pm

According to the site "Porcelain Marks & More" Image 3-06 (our good friend Chris' site) this mark was used between 1928 and 1963.  http://www.porcelainmarksandmore.com/germany/bavaria/arzberg-01/index.php (http://www.porcelainmarksandmore.com/germany/bavaria/arzberg-01/index.php)

Your pattern is "Iris".

As for the other mark - it is for Mayer Wiesau Factory in Bavaria.  This was a factory claimed to have started in 1840 stopped during the war and resumed after the war.  The only references to it are here:  http://www.efineantiques.com/webpages/fine_porcelains.htm (http://www.efineantiques.com/webpages/fine_porcelains.htm)

Maybe someone who can figure this one out can tell me why 2 factories are listed on this one! ?  !  ?  !

Title: Re: antique china
Post by: mart on February 29, 2016, 10:43:50 am

According to PM&M the usual reason, for the double backstamp is because they were re-decorated by the second company !! This one has a gold border and that is possibly what was added later and was stamped again by MW !!  I saw other marks done the same way with different mfrs stamp !! The Iris Series was made between 1945 and 1949 according to his site !!

Title: Re: antique china
Post by: sestern on February 29, 2016, 08:50:26 pm

 Does the 1840 mark relate to the year Mayer Wiesau company began doing business?

Title: Re: antique china
Post by: mart on March 01, 2016, 07:10:00 am

If it is included in the mark that's usually when the company was started !!  Anywhere else on the back can be a shape or style number !!

Title: Re: antique china
Post by: KC on March 01, 2016, 11:46:05 am

That is part of their "makers mark" that they chose to include the date of origin!  Ditto for what Mart put!

Title: Re: antique china
Post by: sestern on March 05, 2016, 07:22:27 pm

I have a complete set of dinnerware for 12 including a coffee set, a tea set, serving dishes and a soup tureen in excellent condition. Can anyone tell me an approximate value?

Title: Re: antique china
Post by: mart on March 05, 2016, 07:35:56 pm

You need to look up each piece individually and see what people are actually paying for them !! Serving pieces must be researched piece by piece !! Even when you do that,, selling as a set will be difficult and you likely will not get as much as selling piece by piece !!  Again,, one of the replacement companies would buy as a set but at about half or less its approx. value !! Patterns like this are not very popular !!  Most sales are to people that need a specific piece to replace a broken one in a set they own !!