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Title: YOUR most recent acquisition!
Post by: ghopper1924 on February 16, 2017, 06:20:20 am
OK, we had fun with the new Ghopper etagere in another thread.

What is YOUR newest acquisition??? Post photos!
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Post by: jacon4 on February 16, 2017, 01:04:33 pm
This is an easy one for me, since last summer! The bird chest (sans birds)
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Post by: ghopper1924 on February 16, 2017, 01:59:13 pm
One of my forum favorites. I would SO like to have a bird chest like that one. Oh well, it's only money.... ::)
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Post by: jacon4 on February 16, 2017, 02:15:45 pm
Yes, i am honored to look after it, if only for a short while. Considering it's age, an incredible survivor. Hey, you CAN have a pilgrim chest for half what they were going for 20 years ago, last 2 recently sold for 20k, a bargain!
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Post by: KC on February 21, 2017, 11:28:10 am
Wish I had something to post here but everything is packed up again...still remodeling/moving/shifting things.

So...BUMP...maybe someone can show us their newest acquisitions!
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Post by: Chrislondo-London on February 21, 2017, 01:05:37 pm
Nice find
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Post by: Chrislondo-London on February 21, 2017, 01:06:27 pm
I have something similar
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Post by: talesofthesevenseas on February 23, 2017, 01:41:51 pm
One of the things that is coming with the old stone house is a large antique harvest table that the sellers did not want to take with them. We are planning to go with rustic 18th century style pewter plates, the wooden dough/butter bowl posted earlier etc. We also hope to be able to uncover the cooking hearth that is currently behind the paneling on the wall and have some nice cast iron sitting around that.

In looking into 18th century style tavern tableware, I realized that Toby jugs have been around since the late 18th, early 19th century. Originally they were used to pour "Stingo" a strong type of ale. The crown of the tricorn hat served as a little drinking cup, however it is very rare to find one with the hat crown intact and most aren't made with them. The old school Tobies were the full body ones, not the head and shoulders mugs. Some of the popular styles from the early days are still produced today and they have been produced by hundreds of manufacturers over the years.

I just won an auction for this guy. I was the only bidder and got him for $18.95. (a similar one from the same mold with slightly different blue paint and mark is selling for $195 on Ruby Lane) I did a bit of hunting and if I did my homework correctly, it looks like he is apparently French faience, late 19th century. I've got an email in to the American Toby Museum to try to get confirmation. That's my latest acquisition. :-D

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x124/talesofthesevenseas/Toby1_zpsbnpwlws0.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x124/talesofthesevenseas/Toby3_zpsr7y2wiaz.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x124/talesofthesevenseas/Toby2_zpsnwges6fe.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x124/talesofthesevenseas/Toby5_zpsmo8gvmen.jpg)
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Title: Re: YOUR most recent acquisition!
Post by: jacon4 on February 23, 2017, 01:58:34 pm
Neat history! Pewter tableware was the late 17th/early 18th century invention that was supposed to put wood turners out of business thought turners of the day! because prior to pewter, turners made the plates, bowls, mugs, etc. out of wood that ordinary people used at their tables. Naturally, they didn't go out of biz, it just changed but, they did lose a lot of tableware biz in which they had dominated for centuries.
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Post by: talesofthesevenseas on February 23, 2017, 02:19:59 pm
Interesting info on the cutlery! I did not know that. Thanks Jacon4!
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Post by: jacon4 on February 23, 2017, 02:42:04 pm
Yeah, funny how technology changes things. Wood turners HATED pewter! and for obvious reasons. Check out this  Elizabethan sycamore goblet, about 1580. It sold for 14k and it is really lovely, i dunno about 14,000 lovely but very nice example of wood turner work. Better pic at the link
http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/lot/an-elizabethan-sycamore-goblet-circa-1580-5323646-details.aspx
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Post by: ghopper1924 on February 23, 2017, 04:13:48 pm
14K for a wooden cup? Still, it IS really cool.  Love the Toby as well. It certainly looks the part, and it was quite a bargain. Once you get established in the stone house, Tales, you'll have to set up a kitchen tableau with all your period stuff.
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Post by: talesofthesevenseas on February 23, 2017, 06:53:10 pm
Love the goblet, but yes, that's a lot of money! I will definitely post pictures of the house when we get settled in. We're not moving in until late April, so it will be a while yet.
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Post by: KC on February 24, 2017, 12:45:56 am
Yours reminds me of one I saw on another site that was delft blue/white so I went to find it -
https://www.rubylane.com/item/1215952-356/Dutch-Delft-Toby-Jug-Signed-19th (https://www.rubylane.com/item/1215952-356/Dutch-Delft-Toby-Jug-Signed-19th)

http://www.1818auctioneers.co.uk/sales/lot/36083/82/459/A-blue-and-white-Toby-jug-in-the-18th-century-blue-and-white-Delft-style/ (http://www.1818auctioneers.co.uk/sales/lot/36083/82/459/A-blue-and-white-Toby-jug-in-the-18th-century-blue-and-white-Delft-style/)


Yours sure looks pristine - hope it is an old original but from the pics I can't see any crazing from age, etc.
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Post by: jacon4 on February 24, 2017, 08:10:06 am
14K for a wooden cup?

Well, blame it on housewives! They are the ones who switched from wood to pewter! I can just imagine how that conversation went between the lady of the house and the wood turner when informed she had switched to pewter tableware in 17th century america & europe.
PEWTER!!!! LADY! WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU! LOOK AT THIS CUP! IT'S SOLID SYCAMORE! IT'S GORGEOUS! IT WILL LAST FOR CENTURIES!

But alas, it wasn't to be, as anyone can tell you, when the woman of the house has made a decision, THAT'S THAT! Pewter was IN, wood was OUT!
Title: Re: YOUR most recent acquisition!
Post by: jacon4 on February 24, 2017, 09:12:41 am
I have seen these Toby jugs at auction but never gave them the time o day, it's pottery isn't it? Another pottery jug peculiar to the southland are these "face jugs" from the mid 19th century made by african slaves who worked at pottery shops. No one knows exactly why they made these jugs but one thing for sure, collectors go CRAZY over them. The best examples come from North/South Carolina & Georgia. Here is one that sold for 36k, i don't get it but hey, whatever trips your trigger i guess.

https://new.liveauctioneers.com/item/22979676_rare-stoneware-face-jug#&gid=1&pid=1
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Post by: talesofthesevenseas on February 24, 2017, 12:05:38 pm
Yeah the pictures I posted are pretty grainy, they came from the seller. It looks like there is some wear on the bottom, but I don't see crazing either. I will take some better pictures when it gets here. Yes those blue and white ones in the links above are the same mold as mine. They all look different since they were hand painted. Fingers crossed, we'll see how I did when he gets here!
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Post by: jacon4 on February 24, 2017, 02:04:34 pm
Does there have to be crazing for it to be old? Women and pottery, a love affair i'll never understand!  Still, for $18.95, how can you go wrong?
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Post by: talesofthesevenseas on February 24, 2017, 06:17:42 pm
No, I'm pretty sure it doesn't have to have crazing. I've got ancient Egyptian faience pieces that don't have crazing, but then again, maybe my eyes are just gettin' old!
Title: Re: YOUR most recent acquisition!
Post by: KC on February 24, 2017, 08:59:37 pm
No it doesn't have to have crazing...but more often than not older pieces do.


Title: Re: YOUR most recent acquisition!
Post by: jacon4 on February 25, 2017, 05:38:02 am
One thing about period 18th century pewter is, most/all of it contained lead so i think people who buy it at auction just use it for display purposes and do not use it to eat/drink from.
Title: Re: YOUR most recent acquisition!
Post by: talesofthesevenseas on February 27, 2017, 01:41:14 pm
I lead test all my antique metal items before using them. So far only one has failed, an old conical shaped ice cream scoop.
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Post by: jacon4 on February 28, 2017, 03:22:05 pm
Do you have any 18th century pewter that is lead free? Although i never mess with it or know anything about it, there is literally a ton of old pewter i see at  furniture auctions (along with old pottery), i just assumed they were buying for display. That would be really neat if you could actually use the stuff.
Title: Re: YOUR most recent acquisition!
Post by: talesofthesevenseas on February 28, 2017, 06:12:28 pm
Nothing 18th century.
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Post by: KC on February 28, 2017, 11:19:22 pm
Love those conical ice cream scoops!!! 

For anyone that doesn't know what we are talking about...this is what one looks like in case you ever come across one!

Title: Re: YOUR most recent acquisition!
Post by: jacon4 on March 01, 2017, 04:03:03 am
lol, women and their doo-dads in the kitchen. Just give me a porterhouse and grill & i am happy!
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Post by: mart on March 01, 2017, 06:36:07 am
LOL !!  Yes we little ladies do like our kitchen do-dads !!  But you men sure do like what we can make with them !!   :D
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Post by: talesofthesevenseas on March 01, 2017, 11:25:04 am
I love them too! But lead test it before using. Mine tested high for lead. If you want to do old time conical ice cream on a plate, you can put a piece of Saran wrap in the scoop.
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Post by: jacon4 on March 01, 2017, 11:31:20 am
uhhhhhhh nooooooooo, just give me my steak and the whole tub of ice cream with a spoon, no scoops are required! But hey, don't let me spoil your fun, if you want to admire your scoop, have at it!!!
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Post by: mart on March 01, 2017, 03:20:16 pm
LOL !! One of these days we will find Jacon4 keeled over with his head in a gallon container of Rocky Road !!
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Post by: jacon4 on March 01, 2017, 04:07:14 pm
actually, butter pecan, haagan-dazs or breyers, yummy stuff. i get the quart size so 1 or 2 sittings, it's gone, why waste a dish? that would have to be washed. You girls just wanna break out doo-dads & pottery when NONE of that stuff is required!
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Post by: mart on March 01, 2017, 06:25:06 pm
Darn Jacon4 !!  I remember those butter pecan sundaes at the drug store soda fountain next to the theater !!  That was my favorite too,,!!   Can`t eat it now !!    Back in the good old days !!
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Post by: KC on March 01, 2017, 07:42:48 pm
Mart, had me cackling on the thought of Jacon4 with his head stuck in a container! 
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Post by: talesofthesevenseas on March 10, 2017, 12:23:33 pm
Well this is interesting, I think I have a fake/reproduction, which is OK since I didn't pay much for it. There's wear on it, on the rim and scuffs on the bottom. The glaze has a chip on the nose. All signs that this isn't brand new. It's also most definitely hand painted. However it's most certainly not from Vincennes Sevres France in 1756, which it appears that the mark on it is loosely imitating. The glaze looks too new. It's also petite, too small to be useful  and more for a tourist take home souvenir from this area of France I think. Ah well, Mr. Toby has a good look to him anyway and will get a spot in my kitchen!

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x124/talesofthesevenseas/Toby1_zpsgiuxqb7n.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x124/talesofthesevenseas/Toby3_zps1m3qd0pr.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x124/talesofthesevenseas/Vincennes-Sevres_zpsm2ln8jzk.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x124/talesofthesevenseas/Toby2_zpsymbc4ntm.jpg)
Title: Re: YOUR most recent acquisition!
Post by: jacon4 on March 10, 2017, 12:57:43 pm
lol, oh dear! Toby is a fake! Still, not a loss considering what you paid, it still has the look, just not antique.
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Post by: KC on March 10, 2017, 02:13:24 pm
Although a fake, it would make a nice vase, spooner, etc.  That way you could use it as a honor to the time period but not be grief stricken if it gets broken/cracked from use!

Title: Re: YOUR most recent acquisition!
Post by: ghopper1924 on March 10, 2017, 06:48:25 pm
Good point KC. The upside is that, since it's not genuine (although maybe an old fake?), you can feel free to use it without fear.
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Post by: talesofthesevenseas on March 10, 2017, 06:58:44 pm
Yup, my thoughts exactly.
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Post by: mart on March 11, 2017, 08:28:36 pm
I would say 1970`s or so tourist item !! Still has a neat look !!