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Antiques! => Antique Questions Forum => Topic started by: Chrislondo-London on February 20, 2017, 11:37:50 am
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Hi guys,
I'm on a mission. I'm researching a few sketches but cant read the signature or spell the name :-[ .
I feel that its got a connection to Eastern Europa but I could be mistaken.
Does somebody knows which language this is. Or maybe somebody who knows this signature and artist?
They are sketches of human stone sculptures and others and dating circa 1900-10.
Any help is welcome.
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I read that as
K. Derspirov
but nothing pops up on Google for that name.
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That was also my first impression but some languages use similar letters but other pronounces
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I had 2 bosses from India and they both wrote 'r' as a 'v' with a tiny loop at the bottom point.
That last letter in that signature could also be a 'u' with a line over it.
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"Spirou" is Walloon (Belgian) for "squirrel" and/or "mischievous." It's possible that this refers to the artist's personality and is not their actual name, so this might translate to "K. The Mischievous."
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that was my thoughts also, and the last letter can also be a U . Tried it with the letter V and other spellings but still nothing.
Only way to find out is somebody can recognize the spelling or language.
If i know which language it is than I can search for artist by country or get the spelling correct. The drawings are to good to be of a unknown artist. He or she could also be of a Sculptor?.
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"Spirou" is Walloon (Belgian) for "squirrel" and/or "mischievous." It's possible that this refers to the artist's personality and is not their actual name, so this might translate to "K. The Mischievous."
Thats a good point Ghopper1924.
The letter D and S are in capital. It can also be German. In the German language they also the word DER as THE.
So maybe German or Belgium artist? Will need to have a look into this. Any idea what the German word Spirou is?
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I don't see that Spirou exists in German. My guess is that, as far as etymology goes, the word is related to "spirit" in English and whatever Latin antecedent that both words share.
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What about if we read Spirou as Spirov.. Than it would sound German. It will read Der Spirov. This last name does exist in Germany, Russia etc.
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Could be....
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Maybe someone will know it by the images. Perhaps you should show the sketches.
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Would like to see the sketches too !! And just because someone is a good artist does not mean they will show up on a search !! !! My suggestion would be to take them to a good art gallery or museum !! See if they recognize the name !!
My guess would be that it is a Russian name !!
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Would like to see the sketches too !! And just because someone is a good artist does not mean they will show up on a search !! !! My suggestion would be to take them to a good art gallery or museum !! See if they recognize the name !!
My guess would be that it is a Russian name !!
Hey Mart, I have uploaded some extra pictures. You are right, just because someone is a good artist does not mean they will show up on a search. I had in the past works which did not show up on search but turned out to be from a respected artist. It can also be that im doing a wrong search, he or she could also be a sculptor and these are his/her studies? I don't know...
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Very nice classically-inspired work!!
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The signature is Greek and reads "K. Dendrinou", the ending means thas it is a woman. I will check my books, there are not many female Greek painters in early 20th c.
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I found this tread very interesting. Led me to a little research on Greek and Cyrillic alphabets. This is a great image comparing Greek and English alphabets. http://www.greekgrammar.org/
Great drawings reminds me of some of my fathers from art school.
Mat you are so great with languages sending you a Karma point...!
PeLady
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Great thread.
Very nice pieces. Wish I could add more information but haven't found anything at this time. Still looking....
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I have checked my references and there is no record of a K. Dendrinou. I found a Tonia Dendrinou, but she started making engravings in the 1920s and the first name is not right. Your drawings could have been made as part of drawing lessons. The artist certainly had some talent, but unfortunalely there is no information available about her.
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I have checked my references and there is no record of a K. Dendrinou. I found a Tonia Dendrinou, but she started making engravings in the 1920s and the first name is not right. Your drawings could have been made as part of drawing lessons. The artist certainly had some talent, but unfortunalely there is no information available about her.
Hi Mat,
I was hoping you would read this. Seen other similar topics solved by you.
Knowledge is power, I would never knew and happy that i learned more today.
Shame she's not a listed artist, must be one of the ones that slipped away.
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I guess your artist was called "Aikaterini", and in normal life called "Katerina", which is the simpler version of the same name. Now you have the given name of her, too. It is not unusual that a woman painter of that period in Greece is not recorded, thete are a few that have been "rediscovered" only in recent years, because they never exhibited their work.
Regards, Mat
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Its all about the details. Thx Mat I'm very happen with this outcome.
I do prefer to keep investment paintings and drawings. Would these be consider investment type?
Don't even know what they are worth because I have no auction results or others to base a value on.
How where the other ones discovered? And to who are they the most valuable?
A collector, museum or other? If the artist is not listed than its more decorative value, or not.
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I am not good with values, maybe others can tell you more. The others were discovered when their heirs decided to sell their works. Anyway the Greek art market is not at it's best at the moment...