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Title: Salesman sample? Sorghum or Sugar Cane Press, Extractor
Post by: KC on September 24, 2018, 05:17:08 pm
My cousin is asking assistance with this item.  "Hey! Could you please see what you can find out about this. We were told when Dave bought it that it was a salesman sample of a sorghum or sugarcane press but we can't find anything about it. Could you see what your antique friends think. Thanks Cuz!

Dimensions are:  10 1/4 in. long, 5 1/8 in. wide, 5 3/4 in. high. No maker markings."

My thoughts (KC):  It could be a sugar cane extractor!  I think it could be used as
1)a tobacco leaf press! The wooden designs on side are unique (in shapes of knife/machete and cane knife/?tool?).  Made me think more for use with tobacco!
2)a primitive pasta press!
Any ideas for use and value?
Title: Re: Salesman sample?
Post by: KC on September 24, 2018, 05:21:36 pm
Picture of bottom
Title: Re: Salesman sample? Sorghum or Sugar Cane Press, Extractor
Post by: KC on September 24, 2018, 05:57:30 pm
Some possibilities I found searching around:

Primitive Pasta Roller?!  https://www.ebay.com/itm/263767715934 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/263767715934)

Primitive tobacco leaf roller (not fond of date they quote)  https://www.trocadero.com/stores/whatpdx/items/1356658/Antique-Japanese-Hand-made-wood-Tobacco-leaf-Press-Meiji-Dynasty (https://www.trocadero.com/stores/whatpdx/items/1356658/Antique-Japanese-Hand-made-wood-Tobacco-leaf-Press-Meiji-Dynasty)
Title: Re: Salesman sample? Sorghum or Sugar Cane Press, Extractor
Post by: mart on September 24, 2018, 07:19:15 pm
Its not a cane or sorghum press,, For that you need a power source,,horse or mule !!  I would go with tobacco press !!
Title: Re: Salesman sample? Sorghum or Sugar Cane Press, Extractor
Post by: cogar on September 25, 2018, 04:46:53 am
Squeezing the juice out of “sugar” cane is akin to squeezing the juice out of “cider” apples, …… ya need a lot of squeezing pressure, ……. like so:

(http://img0101o.psstatic.com/159386873_-apple-cider-press-grape-wine-juice-fruit-crusher-wood-.jpg)
Title: Re: Salesman sample? Sorghum or Sugar Cane Press, Extractor
Post by: KC on September 26, 2018, 11:22:33 pm
I thought the same cogar.  But have been pondering the "funnel" type area to direct the liquid?  (Guess it could also direct the leaves or pasta.)  However...some more primitive and manual:

(https://i.pinimg.com/564x/88/4a/83/884a8312e004c8a8e2b0c2e69c4e2cb2.jpg)

This sideways manual wooden cane mill
(https://theshapeofmilk.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/img_0760.jpg?w=300&h=225)
https://theshapeofmilk.wordpress.com/2011/03/ (https://theshapeofmilk.wordpress.com/2011/03/)

and another manual
(https://azafady.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/sugarpressme2.jpg?w=300&h=225)
Title: Re: Salesman sample? Sorghum or Sugar Cane Press, Extractor
Post by: cogar on September 27, 2018, 04:29:02 am
KC, the 2 pictures you posted of “manual cane mills” ……. really tickled my “funnybone” …… and I don’t even have a funnybone”.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Now I wasa wundering, …… just how many of the “below pictured” stalks of sugar cane do you pose they could “squeeze” the juice out of “per hour” with one of those manual presses?

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/96/Sugar_Cane.jpg)
Title: Re: Salesman sample? Sorghum or Sugar Cane Press, Extractor
Post by: KC on September 27, 2018, 11:35:31 am
Not much!  I know!  Definitely not designed for mass production as is but was sold as a salesman sample - thus a much larger was to be made like it which would also be lacking in production but still very usable for more of very low volume and/or individual/family/small group usage.

But the question posed isn't how much quantity it produced but what it was made for/function and value as a salesman sample.
Title: Re: Salesman sample? Sorghum or Sugar Cane Press, Extractor
Post by: cogar on September 27, 2018, 02:14:32 pm
KC, I really don’t think any of the items pictured in Reply #1 or Reply #5 are capable of being used to extract the juice/sap out if sugar cane. For comparison, a sugar cane stalk is harder/firmer than a corn stalk ……. and the cane stalk has to literally be crushed and then pressed to extract the juice.

And like Mart said, I was about to also tell you I don’t have a clue what the item in Reply #1 is, and then an idea, and went looking for a “tobacco leaf press” and one of the designs on the side is surely this, an antique tobacco axe, to wit:

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/282059551762-0-1/s-l1000.jpg)

https://www.etsy.com/listing/537751322/antique-tobacco-axe-primitive-harvesting (https://www.etsy.com/listing/537751322/antique-tobacco-axe-primitive-harvesting)
Title: Re: Salesman sample? Sorghum or Sugar Cane Press, Extractor
Post by: mart on September 27, 2018, 05:47:32 pm
In looking at the space between the rollers and I know it was adjustable !!  If they had many purple hands as I ave had,,  I would vote early pea sheller !!  Could be used for other seeds as well !!
Title: Re: Salesman sample? Sorghum or Sugar Cane Press, Extractor
Post by: KC on September 27, 2018, 08:03:32 pm
cogar, I have been leaning towards tobacco as well. 

Mart, I bet it could be used like a sheller, just doesn't make sense to have the "cutting pieces" displayed for a sheller.

Thank you both for your assistance!  Appreciate any/all help!
Title: Re: Salesman sample? Sorghum or Sugar Cane Press, Extractor
Post by: mart on September 28, 2018, 09:40:49 am
I am sure it had multiple uses !! Back then everyone saved seed for next years crop !!
Title: Re: Salesman sample? Sorghum or Sugar Cane Press, Extractor
Post by: KC on September 28, 2018, 07:18:56 pm
Agree with that Mart!  So many things had to be multi-purpose!
Title: Re: Salesman sample? Sorghum or Sugar Cane Press, Extractor
Post by: mart on September 29, 2018, 07:04:50 am
Remember the old washing machines KC !!  If it was a little larger could even be used for that along with the rub board of course !!   ;D  Good old  days ??  Not in my opinion !!  I had to shake the clothes out and hang them on the line,,then ( yuck ) Iron them !!  I was in heaven with the permanent press !!
Title: Re: Salesman sample? Sorghum or Sugar Cane Press, Extractor
Post by: cogar on September 29, 2018, 09:45:10 am
Quote
Remember the old washing machines KC !!

Did you use your "old" washing machine for ....... churning butter? ;) ;)
Title: Re: Salesman sample? Sorghum or Sugar Cane Press, Extractor
Post by: KC on September 29, 2018, 10:07:01 am
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Remember the old washing machines KC !!

Did you use your "old" washing machine for ....... churning butter? ;) ;)


LOLOL  If there was a way to make butter using it I guarantee my kinfolks did it!
Title: Re: Salesman sample? Sorghum or Sugar Cane Press, Extractor
Post by: cogar on September 29, 2018, 12:49:02 pm
3-in-1 Old-Time Washing Machine

Back in the good old days it was possible to do a lot of household jobs with certain machines, says Steve McDonough, Spring Valley, Wis., who displayed a rare old-time washing machine last summer at the Minnesota State Fair.
   
The belt-driven Maytag Gyratator washing machine could also be used as a butter churn and an ice cream maker. The owner simply removed the agitator and slipped the butter churn-ice cream maker on in its place. Or, he could remove the wringer and fit a standard meat grinder onto the wringer post. The meat grinder was shaft-driven the same way as the wringer.
 
Maytag Gyratator Washers were made in the 1920’s and 30’s.


Read more @  https://www.farmshow.com/a_article.php?aid=28688 (https://www.farmshow.com/a_article.php?aid=28688)

Title: Re: Salesman sample? Sorghum or Sugar Cane Press, Extractor
Post by: KC on September 29, 2018, 01:13:09 pm
Oh wow!  Why didn't we think of using it for ice cream making!!!!
Title: Re: Salesman sample? Sorghum or Sugar Cane Press, Extractor
Post by: cogar on September 29, 2018, 01:59:24 pm
KC, when my Dad moved us from the house in town to a big farm house in the country, in 1944 it t’was,    I remember my Mother using a gasoline powered Maytag washing machine that looked like this one, to wit:

(http://www.herculesengines.com/maytag/[06_13_00][20_06]_03.jpg)

As you can see via the picture, it had a “kick” start (actually a “stomp” start) …… and it would go …. “Ker Chug, …. Ker Chug” …… and the “blue” smoke would “puff” out of the end of the exhaust hose.

As one can surmise, …… clothe washing had to be done on the back porch in the “open” air.
Title: Re: Salesman sample? Sorghum or Sugar Cane Press, Extractor
Post by: mart on September 29, 2018, 06:45:44 pm
Ours had legs and was round with the wringer at the top !!  When I had my shop I had a wooden one !!  Two arms inside with flat plates at the ends !!  Totally manual,, when you pumped the handle the plates went up and down and around to agitate the clothes !!  Sure wish I had kept it in case of long term power failure !!  Or just as a cuuriosity !!