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Title: Antique Japanese (Satsuma?) Plate Help - Unusual but foot rim shows age
Post by: DSky25 on December 31, 2018, 12:34:52 PM

Hi all,

I ran across this plate and although the design, shade of blue and gold gilt are recognizable as Japanese, it’s odd to find on a plate.  I forgot to take a picture from the side of the plate but it is very lopsided and wavy, so it was hand made.  Any info would be appreciated.  Thank you!

Title: Re: Antique Japanese (Satsuma?) Plate Help - Unusual but foot rim shows age
Post by: mart on January 01, 2019, 10:58:59 AM

https://www.antiquetrader.com/antiques/ceramics/the-history-of-japanese-cloisonne/

Hard to say Japanese or Chinese !!  Many Japanese Cloisonne and Moriage pieces were decorated in China !!  Not sure how that came about or if its correct !! Cloisonne was traditionally used for small items and jewelry !!   The wire work came first and then the enamel added !!  Moriage (raised enamel) also was used to accent the artwork !!  Yours looks to be mid century or a bit earlier and was made for export !!  There were so many artists,, no way to know who decorated it !!  Mat can probably tell you more about it !!

Title: Re: Antique Japanese (Satsuma?) Plate Help - Unusual but foot rim shows age
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Title: Re: Antique Japanese (Satsuma?) Plate Help - Unusual but foot rim shows age
Post by: mart on February 01, 2019, 07:52:44 PM

Well,, Hello there !!  Glad you decided to join us !!  I am in NE Texas and our mod is in the DFW area !!

Title: Re: Antique Japanese (Satsuma?) Plate Help - Unusual but foot rim shows age
Post by: ghopper1924 on February 02, 2019, 10:02:57 AM

Quote from: mart on February 01, 2019, 07:52:44 PM

Well,, Hello there !!  Glad you decided to join us !!  I am in NE Texas and our mod is in the DFW area !!

Sorry Mart, but I'm afraid this is just elaborately worded spam.

Title: Re: Antique Japanese (Satsuma?) Plate Help - Unusual but foot rim shows age
Post by: mart on February 02, 2019, 11:18:32 AM

Yes,, I saw that yesterday after I posted !!  Didn`t notice till I looked at the second one !!  First one sounded good !!

Title: Re: Antique Japanese (Satsuma?) Plate Help - Unusual but foot rim shows age
Post by: Mat on February 05, 2019, 08:38:12 AM

Hi, in my opinion this is Chinese porcelain imitating Japanese style, late 20th c. The black outlines appear to be printed.

Title: Re: Antique Japanese (Satsuma?) Plate Help - Unusual but foot rim shows age
Post by: mart on February 06, 2019, 06:44:34 PM

Quote from: mart on January 01, 2019, 10:58:59 AM

https://www.antiquetrader.com/antiques/ceramics/the-history-of-japanese-cloisonne/

Hard to say Japanese or Chinese !!  Many Japanese Cloisonne and Moriage pieces were decorated in China !!  Not sure how that came about or if its correct !! Cloisonne was traditionally used for small items and jewelry !!   The wire work came first and then the enamel added !!  Moriage (raised enamel) also was used to accent the artwork !!  Yours looks to be mid century or a bit earlier and was made for export !!  There were so many artists,, no way to know who decorated it !!  Mat can probably tell you more about it !!

Hey Mat !!  Finally got close !!