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Title: Help with a pewter plate dated 1802
Post by: chigato on November 14, 2009, 02:14:27 pm: Hi, Can anyone tell me what this is ? It's a soft metal and is engraved with game, a hunter and table settings. What is it ? I'm thinking that it is perhaps a serving dish ? Or something that was displayed ? It has 3 makers mark s on the back. Any help would be appreciated and also a ballpark figure on it's worth ?
Thanks much.
Title: Re: Help with a pewter plate dated 1802
Post by: fancypants on November 15, 2009, 09:53:00 am: It appears to be a pewter plate or charger .

What is its' diameter ?

Does one of the hallmarks depict a rose & crown ?
Title: Re: Help with a pewter plate dated 1802
Post by: sapphire on November 15, 2009, 11:36:32 am: Did find some items sold with the reference (sort of) to Elias Beyer

http://www.eldreds.com/sales/detail.php?itemID=27116

At Kovel's site ( not a member, so can't access prices)

http://www.kovels.com/priceguide/kovels_pewter/2005/plate/2107487.html
Title: Re: Help with a pewter plate dated 1802
Post by: talesofthesevenseas on November 15, 2009, 12:05:13 pm: Your angel with the sword and scales is the quality touch mark:

ANGEL: The Angel mark on pewter is of Continental origin, broadly speaking. It is seldom seen on English pewter. This touch-mark is used in conj unction with the maker's mark. The Angel may be flying, or standing with a palm branch in hand or with sword and scales. The use of this mark was strictly reserved for metal of the finest quality. It was adopted throughout most European countries, except France, as a sign of the very best, from the middle of the 17th century.

Source of this info: http://www.oldandsold.com/articles02/metals-a.shtml (http://www.oldandsold.com/articles02/metals-a.shtml)

Can you photograph the additional touchmarks?
Title: Re: Help with a pewter plate dated 1802
Post by: regularjoe2 on November 15, 2009, 02:28:38 pm: 8 1/2" pewter plate (according to Kovels.com) sold in 2005 for $80.00 .

BTW , sapphire , kovels is a free registration site (many dealers distrust it & view it with distain , but I still use it , for the heck of it) .
Title: Re: Help with a pewter plate dated 1802
Post by: sapphire on November 15, 2009, 03:21:27 pm: Quote from: regularjoe2 on November 15, 2009, 02:28:38 pm
8 1/2" pewter plate (according to Kovels.com) sold in 2005 for $80.00 .

BTW , sapphire , kovels is a free registration site (many dealers distrust it & view it with distain , but I still use it , for the heck of it) .

Seriously?? I just figured it's like all the rest.......pay a wad for 24 hours, your life savings for a week or your first born for a month :P

Thanks for the info RJ, will put it to good use ;)
Title: Re: Help with a pewter plate dated 1802
Post by: KC on November 16, 2009, 11:20:24 am: No, Kovels is free. Only problem I have is, say for instance, this plate they have that sold for $80...there isn't a picture for it! So it is a good reference for pricing BUT there really isn't an actual comparison visually. BUT it is worth joining. I don't get junk ads or mail from it so that is a plus-plus.
Title: Re: Help with a pewter plate dated 1802
Post by: chigato on November 16, 2009, 09:54:57 pm: Ok, I fixed my camera and got some more pics and of the 3rd makers marm. I think the other 2 are identical. Also, the plate is 12 inches in diameter. Thanks everyone for your interest.