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Title: Cookie Jar Help Needed - Help to Identify
Post by: dada51555 on December 23, 2009, 08:55:19 pm
Very old cookie jar.  Any cookie jar experts out there with an idea?
Thanks!
Scott
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Title: Re: Cookie Jar Help Needed - Help to Identify
Post by: Dean Perdue on December 24, 2009, 01:20:19 am
That's scary.
Title: Re: Cookie Jar Help Needed - Help to Identify
Post by: cogar on December 24, 2009, 05:43:06 am
I believe it is the “Fire Chief” jar and was made by American Bisque.
Title: Re: Cookie Jar Help Needed - Help to Identify
Post by: D&b antiques on December 24, 2009, 06:37:04 am
I believe the shape & style. is and English Bobby.
Title: Re: Cookie Jar Help Needed - Help to Identify
Post by: cogar on December 24, 2009, 11:53:26 am
I concede, D&B, I didn't look at the picture in my book close enough.

My one book shows 3 jars - Fire Chief, Pirate and Captain and I knew it wasn't the last 2.

My other book lists 2 jars - Brownie (marked "Brownie" on collar) and Cop.

All are marked "USA" on bottom. The jar bottoms are all the same but the lids are slightly different. 
Title: Re: Cookie Jar Help Needed - Help to Identify
Post by: D&b antiques on December 24, 2009, 02:04:32 pm
Cogar I have to admit. I just looked at cookie jar's book two  ;D I tell you what. that's very close too the police man.the foot note say's.hat reads police.back of collar is ''Cop''.

I think we could solve the puzzle. IF those word's are there. and it does look american Bisque. Reference Ermagene Westfall Cookie jars book two. 2000 edition.
Title: Re: Cookie Jar Help Needed - Help to Identify
Post by: dada51555 on December 24, 2009, 02:40:48 pm
Thanks for the great info.  There is a #1 on his hat, but no other words or markings anywhere. 
Cop or Fireman?
Title: Re: Cookie Jar Help Needed - Help to Identify
Post by: D&b antiques on December 24, 2009, 02:55:24 pm
If it has the word's. U.S.A. on the bottom I'am going to agree with Cogar. It's American Bisque. but still believe it's and English Bobby.
Title: Re: Cookie Jar Help Needed - Help to Identify
Post by: D&b antiques on December 24, 2009, 03:40:45 pm
There was a german company,who first designed the Bobby. American Bisque picked up on it in the 1950's. I believe you have one of the Original's from Germany.
Title: Re: Cookie Jar Help Needed - Help to Identify
Post by: D&b antiques on December 24, 2009, 04:19:43 pm
I think we should discuss this with the others. My statement is we are looking at a ''Rare Cookie Jar'' the number one being a mold number. in other word's first off the kiln & mold.

It is German. but was copyed by American Bisque in the 1950's. This is one of those I wish I could see up close.
Title: Re: Cookie Jar Help Needed - Help to Identify
Post by: dada51555 on December 24, 2009, 07:00:16 pm
It's in Sunday's auction.  Someone is going home with it.  I normally have a pretty good idea of what we're selling, but this one stumped me.
Title: Re: Cookie Jar Help Needed - Help to Identify
Post by: cogar on December 25, 2009, 03:55:43 am
I agree with D&B that "we are looking at a ''Rare Cookie Jar''

So the question is, Dada51, ..... are you selling or buying? ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Cookie Jar Help Needed - Help to Identify
Post by: D&b antiques on December 25, 2009, 06:19:57 am
Theres Obvious paint loss. likely from years, of Handling & Wipeing the dust. but if I were and avid cookie jar collector. this one would be on my want to own list.
Title: Re: Cookie Jar Help Needed - Help to Identify
Post by: dada51555 on December 25, 2009, 10:16:04 am
I'm the auctioneer.  This cookie jar was consigned with a bunch of others.  It is selling this Sunday, although we're having a blizzard here in the middle of the country so I don't know if we'll be having an auction on Sunday or not.
Title: Re: Cookie Jar Help Needed - Help to Identify
Post by: D&b antiques on December 25, 2009, 11:11:03 am
It was cold painted. that's apparent from the paint loss. so I would say' 1930's that's when figurals, became popular. if info given is correct. I would start the bid at $300.00 Dollars.

It's christmas so the others. are likely injoying the day. But I'am sure they will respond.
Title: Re: Cookie Jar Help Needed - Help to Identify
Post by: dada51555 on December 25, 2009, 02:32:41 pm
Any guesses as to what it will bring at auction?  I'll post the price realized after the auction on Sunday.
Title: Re: Cookie Jar Help Needed - Help to Identify
Post by: D&b antiques on December 25, 2009, 02:57:36 pm
The price is going to depend on who's there. & of course the weather. I would suggest regardless of it's value. $125.00 Dollars.

We are looking forward to your auction result's.
Title: Re: Cookie Jar Help Needed - Help to Identify
Post by: KC on December 25, 2009, 11:23:42 pm
Agree with D&b.  Cold painted for sure!  Believe this one is a rare one!  Couldn't find it in the books...but then I don't have them all!

Title: Re: Cookie Jar Help Needed - Help to Identify
Post by: dada51555 on December 26, 2009, 10:08:26 am
Weekly auction has been canceled due to the blizzard.  It will now sell at the January 3rd auction.  I'll post the result.
Title: Re: Cookie Jar Help Needed - Help to Identify
Post by: D&b antiques on December 26, 2009, 11:46:43 am
Please keep us in Mind. we Know your day's are busy. we injoy the feed back.
Title: Re: Cookie Jar Help Needed - Help to Identify
Post by: Tim on December 26, 2009, 02:08:17 pm
Hi all...........and a belated Merry Christmas but also a joyous and healthy new year to all.

Without markings he probably won't make a lot of difference. I'm looking at Roerig II Fire Chief but even the authors of the price guides get it wrong sometimes. The soldier (no he is not a soldier), in Westfall's book actually looks closer in terms of patina/paint loss.

IF I were the auctioneer, I would state you believe it to be American Bisque or possibly earlier. I would call him a Fire Chief but that there were other Roly-Poly characters made. No chips/cracks, I'd start it at $300, get a bid at $25 and probably sell it in the neighborhood of $100. CJ's aren't what they were after Andy Warhol's auction but the old ones should still do ok.

Depending on area of the country and of course the weather........... ::)
Title: Re: Cookie Jar Help Needed - Help to Identify
Post by: D&b antiques on December 26, 2009, 03:40:15 pm
If the Bidder Knows his Cookie Jar
Title: Re: Cookie Jar Help Needed - Help to Identify
Post by: D&b antiques on December 26, 2009, 03:43:00 pm
If the Bidder knows his or her cookie jars they will be looking for those distinct wedge shapes. common to most Americn Bisque. which are on the bottom.
Title: Re: Cookie Jar Help Needed - Help to Identify
Post by: dada51555 on January 02, 2010, 06:46:45 pm
Sells tomorrow (Sunday, 1/3/10).  I'll remember to post the price.
Title: Re: Cookie Jar Help Needed - Help to Identify
Post by: KC on January 02, 2010, 10:04:49 pm
Let us know!
Title: Re: Cookie Jar Help Needed - Help to Identify
Post by: dada51555 on January 03, 2010, 05:59:13 pm
Sold for $100.
Title: Re: Cookie Jar Help Needed - Help to Identify
Post by: D&b antiques on January 04, 2010, 09:29:38 am
 :)Thank's for the repost. not a bad price considering, condition paint loss etc.
Title: Re: Cookie Jar Help Needed - Help to Identify
Post by: KC on January 05, 2010, 11:39:21 am
Congrats.  Thanks for letting us know!