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Antiques! => Antique Questions Forum => Topic started by: hosman321 on February 21, 2010, 04:51:18 pm
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I bought this picture last night because...well, obviously I liked it. But I'm having a hard time figuring out if it's from the 20's. I usually don't buy pictures like this that are newer than the 20's but this one was just classic. That sexy sailor outfit and the beach in the background just scream WWII to me. But then, I don't know if the frilly parasols like those were still popular in the 40's. Any ideas?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390156374600&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
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My uneducated GUESS is before WWII based on the fashions and frame.
1920's-early 30's is my guess.
Hopefully you'll get some better and more knowledgable input on this one.
I like it as well and can't blame you for grabbing it.
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Any imperfections in the glass?
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I don't think there's any imperfections but I haven't gotten it yet. I don't like the ugly design around the picture so I'll probably put some dark mat or velvety stuff over it. Not doing any damage to the original, of course. I know it's not a big deal when it's really from but I like to know exactly what I have so I don't sound like an idiot when I tell people about my stuff. ;)
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Your girls look like they have just won a boardwalk bathing beauties costume contest. These were very popular at seaside places like the Beach Boardwalk that we have in Santa Cruz CA. Up in the arcade there are lots of photos like this. There was a certain amount of nostalgia and silly costuming happening with some of these contests too. Below I'm posting some similar photographs which are from Mack Sennett's Comedies which date from about 1915 to about 1920. I think by comparing to similar photos, that yours would likely date to this time period. I think the frilly parasols and hats are nostalgia costuming.
Take a look at these photos, there are some very similar outfits/parasols:
http://nouveauvendimia.blogspot.com/2008/11/bathing-beauties.html (http://nouveauvendimia.blogspot.com/2008/11/bathing-beauties.html)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bc/Mack_Sennett%27s_bathing_beauties_posed_on_automobile.png)
(http://www.moviecard.com/misc_t-z/tob-strollerbig/strollercan48.jpg)
(http://www.light-headed.com/asite/laguna/laguna_graphics/bathing%20beauties/bb12ax.jpg)
(http://www.light-headed.com/asite/laguna/laguna_graphics/bathing%20beauties/bb13q.jpg)
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All I can say is Ooh-la-la! Nice picture for its' time.
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Heck yeah Wayward.
What a great decade.IMO the best of the century.
Great photo's Hosman321 & TOT7S.
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This site is gettin a little bit risqué.... ;}
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I'd have to agree with KCs' last post .
Here's "something special" for the ladies here :
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Aww c'mon! Let's see some hot guys in wool swimware!
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O.K. talesof .
Your wish is my command .
Make sure the kids are not in the room .
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1890
(http://www.getfrank.co.nz/assets/images/Halfwidth/_resampled/ResizedImage200316-1910.jpg)
1907
(http://cozybeach.com/vintagepics/oldswimsuit1907.jpg)
1927 Speedo!
(http://www.gizmag.com/pictures/lrg/swimwear-exhibition-16.jpg)
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Now that's what I'm talkin' about KC!
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Be still my beating heart!!!!!!! *swooooon!!!* Quick! Someone get my smelling salts!!
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(http://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/hommedia.ashx?id=7524&size=Small)
or to fancy you up.....
(http://ullam.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/lsa260.jpg)
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*fanning herself vigorously* Thank-you KC, I'm much better now!
Nice vinaigrette... or is it actually something else?
Pardon a little topic hijacking, but here's my vinaigrette, I picked it up at a small antiques street fair in Santa Cruz for $50. I researched the hallmarks and it was made by Thomas Newbold in Birmingham England in 1824. I have no other history on it and I have no idea how it ended up in Santa Cruz, but I couldn't pass it up!
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x124/talesofthesevenseas/Vinaigrette1.jpg)
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x124/talesofthesevenseas/Vinaigrette2.jpg)
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x124/talesofthesevenseas/Vinaigrette3.jpg)
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You got it...that is what it is!
Nice one Talesof! Really like it!
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Looks like Regularjoe's photo was checked 22 times in just 6 hours.
Some of you ladies are likin what you see.Don't lie.
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LMAO, Love ya folks. Cool Vinaigrette Tales.
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Thanks, it was a lot of fun to research. Once I knew who made it, I found an old city directory and found the location of Newbold's shop in the old Jeweler's Quarter in Birmingham. I wish I knew who owned it. There is a hard to read monogram on top "X to X" (Not sure of the initials) all I can tell is that it was once a gift, way back in 1824. :)
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Here's my little vinaigrette .
Nice images/items in the above (all of them) posts !
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LOL that would be an "oil and vinaigrette"!
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Fancy, I laughed out loud!
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Some things just seem out of place about the photo, as if its one of those photo sessions for dressup and pictures are taken of you that look like they are from the old period like early 20th and late 19th century.
some reason it just looks too modern even for the style of clothing to.
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I agree hairstyles are not of that era look at tales examples & back at the photo in question.
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What about the 3 other people you see in the photo?Are they part of this staged set up also or is it a original background photo?
I still think it's the real deal but I'm not even close to being qualified to say for sure.
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I have had a nack for pictures, I guess thats one of my good traits where I can tell a pictures age and what not, and I have seen pictures done like this on as an event or sold to tourist I would assume where they dress up in these outfits and the backgrounds and all would look old, it be black and white or brown and white color, giving off the presence it is old.
Thats the vibe I kind of get from that picture, the dresses look too modern like they are a replica, the ones in the background are actually the same way as well, due to the focus of the camera and how it blurs out in the background leads me to believe the bridge or what looks like could be a rail road going across water is actually just a background, the setting looks to be on a beach, the very front at the bottom looks like a sidewalk or something, not sure, I could be wrong about everything, but it looks too recent IMO.
The idea they give off so much color in a black and white photo leads me to believe its a B&W photo done recently at some event or tourist place.
I am no expert on frames either, but would guess the frame is from the 50s as well.
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Really not sure Dean but My mother & father used to go to an anitques car show/swap meet & antique flea market all in one and lots of the car owners would all dress in the era appropriate to the car they owned.
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like Wendy said with the hairstyles to, its another thing that just makes it look as if it was taken within the last 10 years.
But I could still be wrong about it, and if this is an actual photo from the 1920s, I be shocked at how similar todays women look to those in that photo.
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You know, I'm starting to wonder about it now, too. I just can't tell. The frame is definitely old and fairly fragile, the wire and nails are really old. But I just can't tell with the picture. Maybe someone did take the picture within the last decade and put it in a cool old frame. If I figure out it's not old at all, I'll give the pic away and put a cool original picture in the frame. Thanks for the input guys!
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Have you tried taking the photo out of the frame and looking at the back of the actual photo? You might see something (like a studio name, a signature etc.) There might be some other tell-tale signs of age that reveal themselves when you remove it. The mat or photo may show some signs of long-term exposure to light.
The wet sand under the girls feet makes me think this isn't a posed modern studio nostalgia print. It looks like it goes back all the way to the guys standing behind them, that they are not a studio background. The hair styles are throwing me too... but I'm not ready to write this one off just yet. :)
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Have you tried taking the photo out of the frame and looking at the back of the actual photo? You might see something (like a studio name, a signature etc.) There might be some other tell-tale signs of age that reveal themselves when you remove it. The mat or photo may show some signs of long-term exposure to light.
The wet sand under the girls feet makes me think this isn't a posed modern studio nostalgia print. It looks like it goes back all the way to the guys standing behind them, that they are not a studio background. The hair styles are throwing me too... but I'm not ready to write this one off just yet. :)
Thing is, how is the boots they wear so clean? I am not going to swear this is studio made, but it does give that presence that it is, what is that girl on the right standing on?
it still throws me off due to the trophy being held to, but their is definately something not right about the girl on the right who holding the trophy to, thats what kind of has me thrown off.
But I am not sure on where the studio background is if their is one, but it does look like the far background looks like a background from a studio, it just doesnt have that focus and its as if the flash from the camera blurred it out.
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Have you tried taking the photo out of the frame and looking at the back of the actual photo? You might see something (like a studio name, a signature etc.) There might be some other tell-tale signs of age that reveal themselves when you remove it. The mat or photo may show some signs of long-term exposure to light.
The wet sand under the girls feet makes me think this isn't a posed modern studio nostalgia print. It looks like it goes back all the way to the guys standing behind them, that they are not a studio background. The hair styles are throwing me too... but I'm not ready to write this one off just yet. :)
Good eye TOT7S.
Hosman321, Would it screw anything up taking the backing off? I cant tell by the photo.
Also, now that you have possesion can you determine if the glass has slight imperfections?
I'm dying to know if there any are more clues that will tell what's up.
I have to agree with your thinking on cool old frame Hosman321.
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Actually reminds me of pictures you would see posted along the boardwalks at the beach.
They had famous boardwalks in California, Florida, Atlantic City, etc......
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Two of 'em in this area, Playland at the Beach was up near San Francisco, the Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk is still here, 50 miles to the south of SF. They have a great gallery of old photos like this.