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Title: Royal standard hotel 1/2 pint brass mug
Post by: Firefligh on September 12, 2010, 05:09:34 pm
Just found the most amazing mug. It says Royal Standar Hotel it's brass, stands about 3 1nches and has great watermarks. Very niftey but can't find anything on the web for it any ideas?
Title: Re: Royal standard hotel 1/2 pint brass mug
Post by: sapphire on September 12, 2010, 05:37:36 pm
Firefligh, are there any markings on the bottom of the mug? Found a few references to Royal Standard Hotel, two from England (from mid 1800's, both gone now) and one in Australia.
Title: Re: Royal standard hotel 1/2 pint brass mug
Post by: Firefligh on September 12, 2010, 05:49:45 pm
Here's what a found
Title: Re: Royal standard hotel 1/2 pint brass mug
Post by: KC on September 16, 2010, 10:20:19 am
Believe it is Italian in origin.  Perhaps originally from the LALEX company that now produces the famous LALEX 1938 pens.

Could it say Italy under the LALEX?
Title: Re: Royal standard hotel 1/2 pint brass mug
Post by: Firefligh on September 19, 2010, 08:55:52 am
no it actually is a D just not a very got stamp
Title: Re: Royal standard hotel 1/2 pint brass mug
Post by: cogar on September 20, 2010, 04:41:13 am
There is more than just a "D" underneath the name.
Title: Re: Royal standard hotel 1/2 pint brass mug
Post by: sapphire on September 20, 2010, 06:19:03 am
I tried to enhance the last word and it appears to me to be REG(small)D. After looking at it a little longer the first L didn't quite match the second in LALEX, looked like it was missing 'something'.....so thought it might be a D

Did a bit of a search and came up with these 50's bottle pourers, The DALEX Measure, G & C Ltd, Birmingham Eng.  May be a connection??

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1950s-DRINKS-POURER-DALEX-MERRY-XMAS-BOX-/270633767436#ht_500wt_1153


Title: Re: Royal standard hotel 1/2 pint brass mug
Post by: sapphire on September 20, 2010, 06:31:44 am
Ah ha!! (I think  :D )

http://www.flickr.com/photos/36844288@N00/sets/72157623766401644/

"Gaskell & Chambers, of Dalex Works, Coleshill St, Birmingham, were once Britain's biggest bar fitters and manufacturers of beer engines, handpumps and pub cellar equipment. They are now part of IMI Cornelius after many takeovers and mergers - IMI being at one time Imperial Metal Industries, the Birmingham division of ICI. A few scans from catalogue pages in the 1930s and 1950s."

http://forum.birminghamhistory.co.uk/showthread.php?t=4339

"Sir Cornelious Chambers J.P. in 1941 at the age of 80 left to his successors a great Birmingham factory which made everything for the inns and pubs except the beer
Gaskell & Chambers.
In the 50's they made the Dalex stainless steel beer engine allowing beer to be pumped straight from the cellars through stainless steel pipes, allowing even cider to be dispensed without corroding the pipes.
The main factory had four cabinet and joinery works making everything for the modern bar of the time like bar fittings and furniture, tailor made to suit each room, individually.
In 1939 Gaskell & Chambers had a dramatic turn round and swung full force in making armament production for the war effort making mine detectors, fuses for the Anti "U" boat campaign and ammunition boxes."

Fair amount of hits using the terms dalex birmingham  ;)
Title: Re: Royal standard hotel 1/2 pint brass mug
Post by: KC on September 20, 2010, 11:11:08 am
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/pewter-gill-measure-gr-excise-marks-gaskell (http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/pewter-gill-measure-gr-excise-marks-gaskell)
http://www.rubylane.com/ni/shop/tomjudy/ilist/?ss=gaskell+%26+Chambers&sb=Search&samedb=1&sb=1 (http://www.rubylane.com/ni/shop/tomjudy/ilist/?ss=gaskell+%26+Chambers&sb=Search&samedb=1&sb=1)

Marks aren't the same....they actually spell it out on these.....

Good researching sapphire!

Will be on often but not as much....my harddrive crashed and having to borrow the kids between them taking it to school. Will be back in a few days (thank goodness for warranty)!
Title: Re: Royal standard hotel 1/2 pint brass mug
Post by: Firefligh on September 20, 2010, 12:59:24 pm
thank you soo much i though it was dalex but couldn't find anything on G & C