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Title: Old rocker/ recliner chair
Post by: Rgreen687 on February 22, 2011, 09:22:29 am
I have an Old chair I know little about I think its made by lakesside company not sure. I saw one that was simmilar but in  little better condition I think it was made in late 1800's early 1900's. in good condition worth $300 looking to see if someone may have any more info. (http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z434/rgreen687/DSC04378.jpg) (http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z434/rgreen687/DSC04377.jpg)
Title: Re: Old rocker/ recliner chair
Post by: waywardangler on February 22, 2011, 09:25:26 am
Tales, Oceans, and sapphire...look at this!
Title: Re: Old rocker/ recliner chair
Post by: Oceans64 on February 22, 2011, 10:08:04 am
It is Rocker HEAVEN around here!!!  LOL... Rgreen check out the other rockers in the Projects forum  ;D

Have you ever seen underneath the headrest?  It looks as if it was made to be upholstered but I'm not sure.  I am wondering if it was carved under there and maybe (?) pieces are missing?  The sides seem out of proportion with the top (height wise) but that could be how it's supposed to be... Does it feel square under there?  Can you feel any carved details?
What do you think the wood is? Oak?
Love the footrest...  Does the knob on the side release it somehow?
Are the springs underneath original or have they been replaced (Pics of the underneath would help). 

Definitely a platform rocker (duh) but I'm not sure if it could be classified as an "Eastlake" rocker.  It lacks the intricate country and geometrical carvings which IMO define his style. The straight carvings down the sides are typical.  Mine (and I believe the others) are much smaller carvings however allowing space for 5 lines - I'm seeing 3 here.  Also, whenever I see a harp in the design, I think of a Duncan Phyfe influence but that's not really helpful as far as dating.  His design is still incorporated today...

The shape of the various pieces are similar to Eastlake however. Your arms attach at the sides vrs flush - another difference...

Are you keeping or selling? 
Title: Re: Old rocker/ recliner chair
Post by: mart on February 22, 2011, 10:14:16 am
You think they might want one like that too ??? Price is about right  I think. I would say early 1900`s. I had a similar one in mission style, also in oak when I had my shop.  Yours looks a bit more lady-like than it did .
Title: Re: Old rocker/ recliner chair
Post by: Rgreen687 on February 22, 2011, 10:38:53 am
thanks Ill have to do some more reserch now and check it out ill let you guys know what I find out
Title: Re: Old rocker/ recliner chair
Post by: Oceans64 on February 22, 2011, 10:45:03 am
I think $300 is rather high TBH...In the past month, in diff geographical locations, Tales, Sapphire and I have bought one.  I paid $50 at auction tho it had some easily fixable condition issues.  Tales paid $70 for good condition, and Sapph got the best deal at $40.  I continue to see them in my area trying to sell around $175-$200 and they don't seem to sell.  One guy is trying to give his away at $35 (no upholstery) and it's been listed for weeks...  I'd buy but it would cost too much to pick up with ferry rides and by the time you add foam + upholstry, you've lost $$.

Caveat is those were Eastlake so if we can find out more about yours it maybe different...


Title: Re: Old rocker/ recliner chair
Post by: sapphire on February 22, 2011, 10:52:19 am
Rgreen, this is probably what you have already found. I'll check around to see if I can find more........

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Collectibles-General-Antiques-682/2008/11/Platform-Rocker-Recliner.htm
Title: Re: Old rocker/ recliner chair
Post by: sapphire on February 22, 2011, 10:54:01 am
Another......

http://www.goantiques.com/detail,antique-victorian-solid,2323143.html


Title: Re: Old rocker/ recliner chair
Post by: sapphire on February 22, 2011, 10:57:50 am
And another, but no info whatsoever.  Seems the $300 + is a common asking price so far.......but that's only the asking, what has been realized in $$ could be another matter.

http://newlondon.craigslist.org/atq/2218263688.html
Title: Re: Old rocker/ recliner chair
Post by: sapphire on February 22, 2011, 11:02:59 am
One attributed to Hartley (mention of the company in the first link), much more elaborate in decoration and MUCH higher asking price.......

http://www.kaboodle.com/reviews/vintage-antique-db-hartley-victorian-recliner-chair-circa-1885


Title: Re: Old rocker/ recliner chair
Post by: sapphire on February 22, 2011, 11:06:47 am
No picture (ad from 2010) but asking price was $250.  The info contained in the ad is much more interesting. Have you gone over the underside well, looking for any maker's marks.........as Tales can tell you, the rocker mechanism can be a great source for a patent date which aids dating the piece.

http://www.fleasyads.com/viewitem.php?sid=0&item=150529329708
Title: Re: Old rocker/ recliner chair
Post by: sapphire on February 22, 2011, 11:15:35 am
I think BF Huntley would be another name to keep an eye open for, as well as DB Hartley.......those seem to be the two names that pop up in relation to both the style and era of these chairs.
Title: Re: Old rocker/ recliner chair
Post by: sapphire on February 22, 2011, 11:16:09 am
BTW.......LOVE your chair.   ;)
Title: Re: Old rocker/ recliner chair
Post by: Rgreen687 on February 22, 2011, 11:51:32 am
here are the pics of the bottom that I could find when I get sometime ill exam a little closer to look for patten number or marks
(http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z434/rgreen687/DSC04380.jpg) (http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z434/rgreen687/DSC04379.jpg)
Title: Re: Old rocker/ recliner chair
Post by: talesofthesevenseas on February 22, 2011, 12:23:43 pm
Looks like you have the same type of spring mechanism as Oceans and Sapphire. Look on the springs and see if there is a patent number or date. That is how I was able to date my rocker.
Title: Re: Old rocker/ recliner chair
Post by: sapphire on February 22, 2011, 01:26:00 pm
Which reminds me tales, I have mine apart and meant to take pics of the springs mechanism (which are in separate labeled bags now), as mine has single springs that are much smaller in circumference and incorporate a 'brake'.  You and wayward are much better at that darn patent search.....though I did manage to find (and forgot to bookmark) one similar.
Title: Re: Old rocker/ recliner chair
Post by: Oceans64 on February 22, 2011, 01:36:36 pm
The springs pictured below look like the ones on mine however my springs are replacements.  You can see the old holes and the wood wear marks of the former springs.  Not sure when mine were replaced tho..
Title: Re: Old rocker/ recliner chair
Post by: talesofthesevenseas on February 22, 2011, 01:42:29 pm
I never was able to find the patent documentation for mine. I just lucked out that the manufacturer put the patent date on the spring mechanism.
Title: Re: Old rocker/ recliner chair
Post by: sapphire on February 22, 2011, 02:19:04 pm
I actually bookmarked the patent similar to mine! (will wonders never cease :D )

http://www.google.com/patents?id=qKJNAAAAEBAJ&printsec=drawing&zoom=4#v=onepage&q&f=false

At least this gives me something to go on to further the search.


Title: Re: Old rocker/ recliner chair
Post by: Oceans64 on February 22, 2011, 03:24:29 pm
One of the things I missed in the title was "reclining" so others may be right that it will get a better price.  I'm still a skeptical about $300 for a chair with no historical provenance or unusual.  As much as I love old chairs, they are a dime a dozen and most are over priced on CL and eBay IMO but I could be wrong.