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Title: Help
Post by: zharsanyi72 on April 17, 2011, 08:55:02 pm
Please help me to find out ,what is the name of the arts?
Sorry for the quality of the images.
What is the name of the city on the fourth photo?
They so similar.
Thank you.
Title: Re: Help
Post by: bob535 on April 17, 2011, 10:11:52 pm
To me it looks like Paris in the 4th pic. I can't place the castle though. But Paris has those same steeples, and bridges. I could be wrong though  :'(

http://www.barewalls.com/pv-415138_Paris-France--BW.html (http://www.barewalls.com/pv-415138_Paris-France--BW.html)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinghysailor16/131960071/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinghysailor16/131960071/)


Title: Re: Help
Post by: sapphire on April 18, 2011, 06:57:36 am
The obelisk certainly stands out......

Place de la Concorde perhaps??

Title: Re: Help
Post by: zharsanyi72 on April 18, 2011, 09:11:52 am
Wow!
Good ideas!

I just want to say ,this is the best Antique forum!
Title: Re: Help
Post by: sapphire on April 18, 2011, 09:27:49 am
Pic #3 is a photo of the Meyer Madonna by Hans Holbein

http://mydailyartdisplay.wordpress.com/2011/03/21/the-meyer-madonna-by-hans-holbein-the-younger/


Title: Re: Help
Post by: mariok54 on April 18, 2011, 09:31:23 am
I'm not convinced that it is Paris. The Needles weren't put into place until the 1830s - 1840s, and I don'tr think that Paris has changed that much in c170 years, and where is the Seine? I think it might be Edinburgh.

The second one certainly looks familiar and Quakers spring to mind, but then again, I'm sure that the one that I'm thinking of has a dog in it ... ???
Title: Re: Help
Post by: mariok54 on April 18, 2011, 10:09:33 am

Yep... definitely Edinburgh ...

http://www.scotland.gov.uk/About/sah-70/caltonjail

Title: Re: Help
Post by: zharsanyi72 on April 18, 2011, 10:16:02 am
I'm not convinced that it is Paris. The Needles weren't put into place until the 1830s - 1840s, and I don'tr think that Paris has changed that much in c170 years, and where is the Seine? I think it might be Edinburgh.

The second one certainly looks familiar and Quakers spring to mind, but then again, I'm sure that the one that I'm thinking of has a dog in it ... ???
"I think it might be Edinburgh."

Bingo!!!

http://www2.ph.ed.ac.uk/particle-physics-experiment/studentships.html

The eight photo on the right side.

Than you!
Title: Re: Help
Post by: bob535 on April 18, 2011, 10:16:43 am
Nice work Mario!!  ;D I had doubts about Paris but the skyline looked like it. The castle was the doubt I had, because i could not find any castles in Paris that looked similar. I'm Kinda jealous, that was a fun research  ;D
Title: Re: Help
Post by: zharsanyi72 on April 18, 2011, 10:23:14 am
I'm not convinced that it is Paris. The Needles weren't put into place until the 1830s - 1840s, and I don'tr think that Paris has changed that much in c170 years, and where is the Seine? I think it might be Edinburgh.

The second one certainly looks familiar and Quakers spring to mind, but then again, I'm sure that the one that I'm thinking of has a dog in it ... ???
"I'm sure that the one that I'm thinking of has a dog in it "

No any dog on the picture.
Title: Re: Help
Post by: mariok54 on April 18, 2011, 10:25:28 am
The little girl

Anton van Dyck (1599-1641)
Portrait of Princess Mary
Oil on canvas - 136 x 108.5 cm
Hampton Court Palace


http://www.thearttribune.com/Acceptance-in-lieu-recent,654.html?&id_secteur=4
Title: Re: Help
Post by: mariok54 on April 18, 2011, 10:35:37 am
I'm not convinced that it is Paris. The Needles weren't put into place until the 1830s - 1840s, and I don'tr think that Paris has changed that much in c170 years, and where is the Seine? I think it might be Edinburgh.

The second one certainly looks familiar and Quakers spring to mind, but then again, I'm sure that the one that I'm thinking of has a dog in it ... ???
"I'm sure that the one that I'm thinking of has a dog in it "

No any dog on the picture.

Too true,

This is the one that I was thinking of  ...  :(

Title: Re: Help
Post by: mariok54 on April 18, 2011, 10:54:23 am
Nice work Mario!!  ;D I had doubts about Paris but the skyline looked like it. The castle was the doubt I had, because i could not find any castles in Paris that looked similar. I'm Kinda jealous, that was a fun research  ;D

I must admit that I didn't immediately recognise it. I was trying to recall all the cities still with walls and could dismiss a few such as York and Carcassonne. Then i took a closer look at the etching and  realised that the hills and scenery  were a bit of a give-away. I now know that Edinburgh has an Obelisk as well as that very gloomy looking prison!  ;D
Title: Re: Help
Post by: KC on April 19, 2011, 02:37:59 pm
I am right there with you Mariok54.....my first thought wasn't Edinburgh....Great job ya'll!
Title: Re: Help
Post by: Thor on April 25, 2011, 03:48:11 pm
The image of the men around the table is a Rembrandt: "The Syndics of the draper's guild"
You can see it on this page (A nice web catalogue of his paintings.)
http://staff.science.uva.nl/~fjseins/RembrandtCatalogue/r_1660_1669.html


Title: Re: Help
Post by: mariok54 on April 26, 2011, 12:49:15 am
Well found, Thor!  That was really bugging me.
Draper's Guild? I was imagining something a lot more sinister than that  :D
Title: Re: Help
Post by: Thor on April 26, 2011, 11:14:09 am
mariok54, don't celebrate yet.  It was bugging me, and I rechecked it - the men are in slightly different positions, so I was wrong.  Sorry. 
Back to the image search.
It sure does read as a Rembrandt, though.
Title: Re: Help
Post by: mariok54 on April 26, 2011, 11:19:00 am
Aha ... I know the feeling, and there was a dog in mine!  ;D
Title: Re: Help
Post by: Thor on April 26, 2011, 11:32:46 am
Let me try to redeem my weary eyes.  The style, subject, and composition feel strongly like a Dutch painting from their Golden Age.  The image looks like a reproduction for a book- possibly an art book.

The Hals brothers were known for painting "merry companies" so I checked them.  I found Dirck Hals' "Partie champetre" which seems to have the same positions in the men:
 
http://www.tamsquare.com/artist/Dirck-Hals/Dirck-Hals-Partie-champetre-.html

The darkness of the image makes it hard to tell if it is exactly the same one, but look at the hand position in the man in the middle and the books on the table.  You can even see the outline of a painting on the wall behind.  Reproductions for books, especially black and white reproductions, are notorious for making these dark Dutch paintings a lot lighter.

Hope that helps!
Title: Re: Help
Post by: mariok54 on April 26, 2011, 11:39:43 am
I think that we can safely say that you have cracked it this time!
Title: Re: Help
Post by: sapphire on April 26, 2011, 12:01:24 pm
Good going mario! You were posting this while I was 'playing' with the picture too  ;)