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Title: BACCARAT CRYSTAL CANDLEHOLDERS
Post by: new2antiques on August 12, 2011, 11:27:20 am
Pair of baccarat crystal candleholders. 16 1/2 in tall and 6 in wide. At least 100-150 years old. 1 is in very good shape and the other has one prism that has been glued together and some chipping on crystals.
Title: Re: I was given these items and have no idea what they are worth. Need help..
Post by: mart on August 13, 2011, 05:54:34 pm
I can`t get either of your pics to download so I can see your items !!
Title: Re: I was given these items and have no idea what they are worth. Need help..
Post by: new2antiques on August 13, 2011, 07:09:42 pm
Thank you so much, I will try to figure out what is wrong. It showed up on mine so I figured it went through.
Title: Re: I was given these items and have no idea what they are worth. Need help..
Post by: cogar on August 14, 2011, 03:19:56 am
I only see the one picture ...... but can't help you with your questions. 
Title: Re: BACCARAT CRYSTAL CANDLEHOLDERS
Post by: new2antiques on August 14, 2011, 12:18:55 pm
I reduced size. Can you let me know if you were able to get the pic. I also posted another question regarding basilica candelabras. Thank you so much.
Title: Re: BACCARAT CRYSTAL CANDLEHOLDERS
Post by: mart on August 14, 2011, 12:37:26 pm
Yes, they downloaded fine now !! They are certainly unique candleholders !! Sort of waterfall type !! Do they have the Baccarat mark ?? Or how do you know that they are Baccarat ??
Title: Re: BACCARAT CRYSTAL CANDLEHOLDERS
Post by: sapphire on August 14, 2011, 12:41:31 pm
Darn, I remember running across a couple of sites dedicated to this type of holder........if only my two brain cells would fire at the same time I might remember the actual name for them.
Title: Re: BACCARAT CRYSTAL CANDLEHOLDERS
Post by: mart on August 14, 2011, 01:05:55 pm
Come on Sapphire, Help !! I have not seen this style before !!  I will loan you my two brain cells if you need them !! 
Title: Re: BACCARAT CRYSTAL CANDLEHOLDERS
Post by: new2antiques on August 14, 2011, 01:13:03 pm
I can't find these anywhere. I know they are really old and no marking on baccarat crystal until around 1860. These are older than that. Very very heavy pieces.
Title: Re: BACCARAT CRYSTAL CANDLEHOLDERS
Post by: sapphire on August 14, 2011, 04:28:23 pm
LUSTRES !!

Knew I needed that nap   :D




Title: Re: BACCARAT CRYSTAL CANDLEHOLDERS
Post by: sapphire on August 14, 2011, 04:33:10 pm
BTW mart, thanks for those extra cells.......I think I'm firing on all cylinders, at least for a bit.  ;)


Title: Re: BACCARAT CRYSTAL CANDLEHOLDERS
Post by: sapphire on August 14, 2011, 04:56:14 pm
Back on topic......finally came across some numbers on the sale of the ones in the first pic above ( the two tiered pair).

"$4,370
Superb antique pair of two tier crystal lustres"

http://www.antiquesreporter.com.au/index.cfm/category-lots/85-glass/60-john-williams/?count=16&page=2

http://www.antiquesreporter.com.au/index.cfm/lot/247231-superb-antique-pair-of-two-tier-crystal-lustres/
Title: Re: BACCARAT CRYSTAL CANDLEHOLDERS
Post by: mart on August 14, 2011, 06:23:26 pm
Was that first pair in the pics made by Baccarat ??
Title: Re: BACCARAT CRYSTAL CANDLEHOLDERS
Post by: sapphire on August 14, 2011, 06:26:56 pm
Was that first pair in the pics made by Baccarat ??

Not that it's mentioned and likely they would if they were aware of it.

It's the same one I included the links to, the two tiered that went for $4,370
Title: Re: BACCARAT CRYSTAL CANDLEHOLDERS
Post by: mart on August 14, 2011, 06:39:07 pm
Thats what I thought too !! Was in hopes a similar one could be attributed to Baccarat from another source !!  Would be more apt to say that the ones in question here may be Baccarat !!  Still,, even if one cannot say with all probabability that they are the maker,, money should be pretty good even with a bit of  damage !!
Title: Re: BACCARAT CRYSTAL CANDLEHOLDERS
Post by: sapphire on August 14, 2011, 06:57:42 pm
I know I ran across some single tier that went between $350 and $700-800.........heaven knows if I could find them again  :P
Title: Re: BACCARAT CRYSTAL CANDLEHOLDERS
Post by: new2antiques on August 14, 2011, 09:09:10 pm
 Thank you so much for the help. You and Sapphire are awesome. I talked to the person who gave me these today. Her parents passed away along time ago and she has kept these in storage. We are West Coast but her parents were avid antique collectors, getting pieces from East Coast and Europe. That's just what they did. I have other items I am going to post. She said all pieces are very very old, most 150 years and older. The baccarat candleholders are for sure baccarat, no question she said. Antique dealer told her they were but there are no markings. How do you determine?
Title: Re: BACCARAT CRYSTAL CANDLEHOLDERS
Post by: mart on August 15, 2011, 08:46:48 am
It would be difficult to say with certainty !!  Thats why most auctions say that an item is "attributed to" a particular maker rather than saying it is " made by" a company/person !! Without something showing that a maker did produce something similar during a specific time period, thats about as good as you can do.
Title: Re: BACCARAT CRYSTAL CANDLEHOLDERS
Post by: new2antiques on August 15, 2011, 09:26:57 am
How does one go about selling items to get the best price, for example these candleholders?
Title: Re: BACCARAT CRYSTAL CANDLEHOLDERS
Post by: mart on August 15, 2011, 10:28:56 am
You could check with an auction house in your area but there are fees that would be deducted from the selling price !! Usually 20 to 25% is what most are charging !!  Or you could put them in an antique shop on a consignment basis. They usually charge 15 to 20% here  but I would check on the fees before doing that !!  Best bet is just to advertise in your local paper or Craigslist and sell them yourself !!  I would be careful using Craigslist,, there are some freaky people in this world !!
Title: Re: BACCARAT CRYSTAL CANDLEHOLDERS
Post by: sapphire on August 15, 2011, 07:32:01 pm
I would strongly suggest having them looked at by a reputable antiques dealer before offering them for sale. You wouldn't want to undervalue these. Pretty sure someone on here could recommend who to see or contact..........as I've never done so myself or had anything that would warrant valuation.

Hang in there......reliable suggestions will likely come your way
Title: Re: BACCARAT CRYSTAL CANDLEHOLDERS
Post by: mart on August 16, 2011, 01:54:28 pm
Many reputable auction houses do have email evaluation services !!   Just google them in your area !!