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Antiques! => Antique Questions Forum => Topic started by: kanofworms on November 18, 2011, 06:59:15 pm
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Does anyone have a notion about this ~ possibly its worth? All my best efforts to research it, and all I get is Tarpley.
Hello everyone. Name is Tom. Mom passed away a few months ago, there's a lot of items I know not of their history.
Thank you.
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There is one on this site,, vertical storage,, http://www.silverwarechest.com/ !!
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HIGHLY COLLECTIBLE....Used to seeing the wooden ones. Can you post a pic of the bottom? Any markings? Dimensions?
Just making sure it is for silverware and not for writing accessories or cigars/cigarettes!
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He said this is Tarpley, and the ones I saw were made by Reed and Barton !!
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Mart, his post said "All my best efforts to research it, and all I get is Tarpley." which to me (in my literal/anal way) doesn't mean that it is Tarpley. Unless there is another post and I am not seeing it. :)
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Didn`t pay close enough attention I guess !!
I looked up his ESCE which didn`t tell me a thing so we need more to go on that a pic of the box !! A number of companies made these vertical units !!
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If memory serves me well...(no comments from the peanut gallery...LOL) The original design referred to as a Knife Case!!!! Believe original designs were from colonial times!
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Could be but this one is clearly a newer one !! Shape, and style including the plate on the outside looks identical to the Tarpley design !!
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Definitely agree on that one Mart...this is most definitely newer. The hardware on the hinge isn't old. There isn't a lock and the truly older ones typically had locks.
They don't stay on the market long if they show up on it! I had my eye on the lookout for one for a few years and watched carefully as they were swept up for more than I cared to spend....
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Mart, his post said "All my best efforts to research it, and all I get is Tarpley." which to me (in my literal/anal way) doesn't mean that it is Tarpley. Unless there is another post and I am not seeing it. :)
This is correct. Not a Tarpley ~ oh, but in the similar style of a 'vertical' chest, such as Tarpley or Reed & Barton. There are no markings on the bottom, the lock is merely a 'nail on'. Possibility it is from a Williamsburg reproduction catalog? Bombay furniture? Thought also that it could be for silver service pieces.
The Tarpley is typically inlaid, as is the Reed and Baron ~ all are squattier, and longer. In my searches I have included knife-style, vertical chest, vertical storage, 8-slot, etc., all to no avail.
14" H X 8" W X 8" D
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Each of the 6 slots is 2" X 2", the wide slots in the back are 1/2" D X 6 3/8" W.
5.5" Depth in the front slots, 6 3/4" in the next, and the rear-wide slots are ~ 7" in depth.
Dark espresso/surely mahogany finish.
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http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/chippendale-mahogany-knife-box-antique-reproduction
Getting closer!
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But yours is not like that one !! Different base, different shape, no shell carving on top !! Just that it was a repro is about the only similarity !! What are you trying to find out about this ?? Age, value ???
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But yours is not like that one !! Different base, different shape, no shell carving on top !! Just that it was a repro is about the only similarity !! What are you trying to find out about this ?? Age, value ???
The one I referenced in the link, showed me a dark mahogany (finish) and measurements that were very close to the one I have. But, surely, it is not the same one. I also was making reference to the fact that the search engines were being nice to me--getting me closer to what I have.
I'd like to know what it is called and what was its purpose. I am genuinely curious.
What style.
Age.
Value.
*It's just that I can't find anything on it. For being a reproduction, can it be so one-of-a-kind??
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Have you checked ebay and the other sale sites ??
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Yes. Nothing like it. I've look for Reproduction knife cases - even "Made in China" argggg. Nothing. My mom lived on the east coast ~ mainly Pennsylvania and Rhode Island. Her style/furniture was Chippendale, Queen Anne, and Williamsburg. Yeah, I see knife style boxes, I see knife cases - Reed & Barton, Tarpley, and a whole host of true antiques. Odd though, that there isn't a place to go and research (if you will) knife case knock offs. Surely, there would be a picture of it there--and that's just it; I've been looking for a month now and nothing. Local antique dealers haven't been helpful.
"That's why I am here on this site." It was also recommended by a local appraisor.
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You know....that is what that looks like....exactly the style that Bombay had when it was here! Had a outlet store within 3 miles of my home and these sold for appx $99 there. (Good friend was a VP at Bombay.) Not banking that it was Bombay....but theirs did have hinges like that!
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Well it is certainly something to go on. Let's say it is. Probably made in China or India. Let's say it went for $99 back then. Here I have something that is not a Tarpley or R&B in that sense. Not an oddity, but a rarety. Can I put a worth on it. What say you - members?
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If Bombay had it it would not be considered rare !! And you could not price it as a collectable or antique !! But,, if its in good condition, with excellent finish and and interior is good,,I would say that it has not lost value and due to the popularity of these cases might sell for a bit more than its original price !!
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I guess that was what I was looking for. I referred to it as rare - because I have never seen one like it before. I have no reference for it. If its a Bombay reproduction, you'd think there were thousands of them out there. Bombay appears to be selling their product exclusively through Fred Meyer these days (probably good for Bombay). I would have thought, however, that I would at least see one on ebay--but to no avail. Understand that without a title - even 'googling' it, brought up nothing. That's why I entitled this thread as Tarpley-esce to begin with. All my searches ultimately took me to a picture of a Reed & Barton or Tarpley tabletop thing.
May I? What is it???
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If yours has the black fabric interior ( it prevents silver from tarnishing) its a silverware case if it doesn`t and just has the plastic inside,, its a knife case !!
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Yes it is! More so, a slant-front knife case. It has a gray fabric interior. Still haven't found a picture of it on the internet. Possibly if it is discontinued ~ either a Bombay product or a reproduction (analog) catalog product.
A clue: down at the bottom edges of one of the felted slots in the rear I found an adhesive "Made in China" sticker. Placing that in a search engine, however, brought me no closer.
KC thinks it follows the lines of Bombay product (brass hinges are familiar). I searched Bombay today, to no avail. They don't have a customer service department; I was hoping to find a pic through the archives. Further, if this is a Bombay product that had to import thousands of them to stock in all their stores back then. You'd think many would still exist in some shape or another.
Is there an avenue for knock-off (allow ME to put Bombay in that category) reproduction accessories ~ such as knife boxes and the like?
By the way, I believe my mom had this on her dining room buffet for at least 20-25 years. **If that helps.
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Is there a particular reason you need to know the maker ?? If your plan is selling it,, sometimes you are way ahead of the game by not knowing for sure and saying so in your listing !! Now that you know it was made in China,, price went down from a buyers viewpoint !!
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At this point, my curiosity is living large. I now know (via Bombay customer service) it is a slant-front, knife-case style silverware service caddy. It sold for $129.00 Mahogany finish.
I found it odd from the beginning that I could not reference it 'visually' on the internet. I think it is an interesting piece. I have no immediate intentions of selling it.
Thanx to all of you for helping me out.
Tom
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Well at least you finally know about it !! Hooray !!!