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JoshandLila
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« on: November 13, 2011, 07:02:46 PM »

Hi again folks! My grandpa gave this too me when I was barely a teenager, I hunted with it for years. Now its being retired to a place above the mantel but I was just wondering what it might be worth or if anyone could point me in the right direction of where to find out. its stamped "Victor Ejector" Crescent Firearms CO. Norwign(?) Conn USA. The Crescent Co is now best known for their wrenches, but back in the 1800's they also made guns among a number of other things. I believe this was they first shotgun with the automatic shell ejector that popped out the spent shell when you reloaded (its a single shot) and the only other info I found about it said " the rarity of the Victor Ejector model makes it very hard to determine the value". Its in rough shape, but it still exists (and works)and thats pretty cool Thought Id show it to you guys and see what you thought. THANKS!! 
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« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2011, 07:41:18 PM »

Texasbadger could help with this one hope he stops by !!!!
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« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2011, 08:21:41 PM »

I have a blue book of gun values !!  This is what it says about your gun !!  "Victor Ejector, Crescent Fire Arms Co. .410 bore 12 in. single barrel, total production unknown, possible prototype for Crescent Certified Shotgun !! Extreme rarity factor precludes accurate pricing" !! You had better keep it laying on pillows !! Its apparently very expensive !!!
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« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2011, 08:25:13 PM »

Nice mart!!!!!  joshandlila  keep it safe & have it appraised by an expert!!! insure that puppy!!!
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« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2011, 08:36:50 PM »

I am a member of a gun group and occassionally visit there !! I will try to check with the experts there and get their thinking on it tomorrow !!  For sure get it insured as soon as you can determine a value !!
Only bad thing I can say is that the values of the Crescents that are listed are not much and top price is only $1200. but the three models that are rare could be much higher !!
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« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2011, 08:37:44 PM »

Lol Grin Nice gift!
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« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2011, 08:42:19 PM »

Two differant companies here:
Crescent Arms was located in Norwich, Conn. and manufactured good low cost guns under their own name, along with dozens of private brands for various retailers. I believe they were acquired by Stevens Firearms in the early 30's. Crescent Tool Co. was located in Jamestown, NY., and was basically a family owned business from their beginning in 1907 on up to the 1960's.

(BTW: The "Crescent Certified Shotgun" was a .410 pistol with a 12" barrel. That's why it's rare, and illegal if not registered with the Treasury Dept.)


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« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2011, 09:02:19 PM »

You know I really didn`t pay attention to that but you are right !! Only thing is the Victor Ejector (should have paid more attention) is not even listed as a long barrel !!  So there is anopther question !! And Crescent sold the Certified model to Stevens  but thats all they bought !!  After a string of changes Savage Arms bought the rest from Crescent-Davis !!  Wonder if records exist there !!
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« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2011, 09:58:22 PM »

This probably isn't the right place, but I'll tell you a true story about how research (or lack of it) relates to the value of an item. Years ago, I had a 1866 Winchester in the shop for sale for $1000. The gun was basically a well used specimen, with the only variation from standard being a small  scratched in design on the side of the brass receiver consisting of a circle with 3 dots, and an arrow pointing to the circle. I eventually ended up taking a roll-top desk in trade for the gun, and it went to a new owner.

Long story short, in the next few years there was an University of Nebraska dig at the Little Big Horn Battle site in Montana. They found various artifacts, including bullets, brass shell casings, etc. For a limited amount of time that Summer they would forensically test a weapon against those bullets and casings.

Don't you know it...that very Winchester that I once owned and sold, proved to have been used at the Battle by the opposition.

The last time it changed hands was at a Julia Auction back in the year 2000. That old Winchester went from a $1000 gun to a $684,000 one!!!

Sorry to step on your post, but I just wanted to show how it pays to do your homework.
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« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2011, 10:12:53 PM »

Thanks for the info everyone!! I knew it was rare but didnt really realize just how rare it was. Mart, thanks alot and definitely let me know what you find out. Im gonna see if I can find an appraiser who knows old guns!!  Grin
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« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2011, 11:17:50 PM »

Wow... amazing story Rauville, would love to see a picture. J&L, keep us posted on how this turns out!
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« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2011, 12:02:27 AM »

Don't walk, run Grin! For that kind of value I'd want it ins. and where's an auction house, lol
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« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2011, 04:44:09 AM »

JoshandLila, here is a place you might want to check out.

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Here is a listing of the 'bare minimum' information we require in order to ascertain the value of your gun.

   manufacturers name
   model
   serial number
   gauge/caliber
   barrel length
   condition

http://www.gun-appraisals.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=wiw2u.templates&templates_id=78
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« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2011, 06:13:00 AM »

Rauville,, that would be my luck !!
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« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2011, 12:07:23 PM »

Good luck, J&L! Rauville...now you'll have everyone paranoid about everything! (Okay, maybe just me)  So sorry though.
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