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Antiques! => Antique Questions Forum => Topic started by: zoltan on December 16, 2011, 01:02:30 AM
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sorry for the mix up in the last thread. i'll try again!
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There is Tiger (striped) Maple, which is what yours is ...... and there is Bird's Eye Maple which looks like this, to wit:
(http://www.gregorypembertondesigns.com/Images/wood-samples/Birdseye%20Maple.jpg)
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Oh, that is just beautiful! To determine a date we'll need to see pictures of the side of one of the drawers (to show drawer construction) and probably pictures of the back of the dresser, too. I love it!
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very nice! do you have the skeleton key for the locks?
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Beautiful piece! Great quality wood was used, the craftsmanship looks fantastic, and I love the Shaker-style stuff. However, it doesn't look old to me at all - the condition of the finish (especially the Shaker knobs/pulls) is just too perfect. Even if I'm correct, it doesn't mean that it is not valuable though - a high-quality piece will always get a decent price, regardless of age. Especially timeless styles like Shaker! Thanks for sharing!
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this was from my original post in case any one missed it. i will work on getting more pix also.
i have always refered to this style of maple as tigers stripe,so correct me if i'm not right on that.
the dresser is made of solid wood, no veneer at all. the drawer fronts themselves are over 7/8" thick, and have a very rich, lustrous, translucent look to the finish. the drawers pull very smooth, and have widely spaced dovetails. i do not have the key for the drawers unfortunately.
the box is also the same tiger stripe maple, only it is veneer, but still very striking and matches pretty well with the dresser. it looks like there might have been a lining of some sort inside the box because there are glue/attachment stains inside. i'm also missing the key for the box. there is some writing on the inside of the lid in pencil, but i can't decipher what it says.
just wondering if anyone has seen similar pieces, and how old they are, where they are from, and knows what the relative worth is?
i will post additional pix.
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That looks like Federal style chest of drawers ……. but with its legs cut off.
(http://www.mpfconservation.com/Images/2007%20BRCK%20EMPIRE%20CHEST%20DRAWERS/W07%20BRCK%20EMPIRE%20CHEST%20B4%20MPFC.jpg)
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I guess anything is possible - I've seen many pieces that are variants of certain styles, or mixtures of 2 or more. I saw Cogar's pic above in Google Images for "Federal Chest of Drawers", but I think it is somewhat of an exception. Most of the federal pieces I have seen are more characterized by fluting of the legs, inlays, beading and/or stringing, and the pulls are usually much more ornate - almost always brass. With the exception of the (assumed) dovetailed drawers on Zoltan's, this piece could have conceptually been made without even using a router. IN GENERAL - Shaker pieces are largely defined by their simplicity, while the lack of ornamentation would have been fairly uncharacteristic of a Federal piece.
Again - I'm speaking in generalities! It does not mean that Cogar is not correct that this particular chest is Federal in style! Simply that if it is, it is a somewhat uncharacteristic piece.
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Here are some pics of some run-of-the-mill Shaker chests:
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sorry for the poor quality phone pictures.
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These are really difficult. The paneled end is indicative of later 19th century pieces as is the use of tiger maple. Federal Revival pieces were popular in the 20s but generally were big clunky mahogany veneered pieces. My feeling is that this is a transitional piece from the second half of 19th century judging from the dovetailing, the veneer used and the shot of the back construction
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“Looks like” ….. Federal, Empire or transitional “style” …… makes no difference, the majority of all “no-name” cabinetmakers made furniture to suit their “taste” or the “taste” of the person they were making it for.
The wife’s grandfather was a “no-name” cabinetmakers, furnituremaker, casketmaker, etc., who cut his own timber, sawed his own lumber and produced “requested” items for his customers for many, many years ……. and I don’t think he gave a “hoot” about copying or conforming exactly to any “style” of any particular period like those “noted” cabinetmakers who produced items “for sale” to the mass market.
Now Zoltan’s chest-of-drawers is a pretty thing but it looks to me like it was recently refinished. The larger ”top” drawer protruding out farther than the lower drawers, the “keyholes” and the 4-quarter drawer fronts are “clues” to its age of construction. And the use of three (3) different boards between the two upper drawers makes me think it is “one-of-a-kind”. As does the 3-quarter top board that looks like it might be cherry.
But the one (1) thing that really bothers me about it being an “original” period piece is that it has “no legs”.
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Took forever to see the pics on this one !! I have to agree with Cogar on this one !! This cabinetmaker did his own thing !! I would be interested to know if it ever had legs ?? Have you looked ?? What is the height ??
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I was looking at the legs on the wrong picture. It looks as though this piece was modernized by having the legs removed and possibly the knobs replaced
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When I was looking for pics of chairs for Frogpatch I found a console table very similar to these pieces, only it was made of birdseye maple !! Try an image search for "hard rock maple tables' and see if it comes up !! I was using "chairs" but you never know !! It was very similar to your style,, with the blending of light and dark wood !!
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Hi folks, I'm back with a few more questions. It seems that this "one off" piece has turned into a "two off" piece! I found the dressers long lost twin at a local antique store! It is in fine shape with what I believe to be the original top that my piece is missing, and it also has legs, but they look a little out of character. Everything else is identical to the one that I have.
(http://[IMG]http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/yy250/lyonlat/maple_zpsc2708e71.jpg)[/img]
[img(http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/yy250/lyonlat/maple2_zpscd73d6d4.jpg)][/img]
(http://[IMG]http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/yy250/lyonlat/maple3_zpse5089a53.jpg)[/img]
(http://[IMG]http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/yy250/lyonlat/maple4_zps90a3371e.jpg)[/img]
I would love to buy it and have a set, but they are asking $2400 which is a little steep for me right now. Does that price sound about right, and would they be of more value as a sort of mis-matched set?
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(http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/yy250/lyonlat/maple_zpsc2708e71.jpg)
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(http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/yy250/lyonlat/maple3_zpse5089a53.jpg)
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(http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/yy250/lyonlat/maple4_zps90a3371e.jpg)
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Wow, I never noticed that you don't have some type of feet on your piece! Did you ever turn it over and see if there are indications (holes/glue,etc) that something is missing?
By-the-way...they are overpriced in my humble opinion! Beautiful piece tho'!
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Are you in the U.S. ?? Are the dovetails made similar to your chest ?? There was a furniture maker known for furniture such as this but I can not remember the name at the moment !
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I'll have to empty it out and take a look underneath. And yes I am in the US. The family legend has my grandfather picking it up in Virginia.
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No !! Just pull out a drawer and look on the side where the drawer front attaches to the sides !! Those are dovetail joints that hold it together !!
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Mart, they are looking to see if it ever had feet attached.
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Oh !! Forgot about that !!
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Are you in the U.S. ?? Are the dovetails made similar to your chest ?? There was a furniture maker known for furniture such as this but I can not remember the name at the moment !
Yes, the dovetails and everything but the top and feet/legs are basically identical.