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Title: Weller Jardiniere
Post by: debodun on March 04, 2012, 09:13:03 AM
This was collecting dust on top of a cedar wardrobe. It cleaned up nicely and I noticed the mark "WELLER" stamped on the bottom. I borrowed Warman's book on Weller Pottery from the library (2007 edition), but couldn't find this pattern. Any help would be much appreciated in the way of pattern ID, age and value. Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Weller Jardiniere
Post by: wendy177 on March 04, 2012, 10:59:11 AM
You definatley have a Weller piece, Beautiful  Have searched and not found pattern ID or dating  for your piece. I did find one on ebay but they had no info. I would place a higher value than the one on ebay due to the fact yours is marked, but value could be MUCH higher will keep an eye out for your Jardiniere.  :)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Weller-Pottery-Majolica-Blended-Glaze-Floral-Art-Nouveau-Design-Jardiniere-MINT-/390393089039?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5ae53dcc0f
Title: Re: Weller Jardiniere
Post by: debodun on March 04, 2012, 11:40:28 AM
Thanks for trying to find out. It's a daunting task to try to identify all the EAPG glass patterns and china & pottery marks from my mother's estate - she literally has hundreds of pieces. I guess there's so much that they can't all possibly be contained in antique guides.
Title: Re: Weller Jardiniere
Post by: mart on March 05, 2012, 09:46:49 AM
For that much stuff, You really need to get a notebook and as you research each piece, write down the description, value and assign a number to each one with a corresponding number on the item with a stick on label, not tape !!  This will help for insurance purposes as well as remembering what each is !! Sometimes it can get confusing after looking up so many pieces !! Then you can look at the number on the labeled item and will have all the info on it in the notebook !!  And should you sell any of the items,, you will know pretty well what each is worth give or take a few bucks !!
Title: Re: Weller Jardiniere
Post by: debodun on March 05, 2012, 10:00:34 AM
You wouldn't believe the stuff in my mom's house. I took photos of what I felt was the better quality items and put them on a Web site (after spending quite a bit on lithium batteries for my camera). Here's the URL for it:

http://estatesaler.angelfire.com/
Title: Re: Weller Jardiniere
Post by: Rauville on March 05, 2012, 12:51:52 PM
I finally got around to looking through my old Weller books concerning your jardiniere. I don't believe there was ever a formal design name assigned other than "Colored Glaze" to a group of varied patterns of pedestals and jardiniere sets. I can tell you that yours with the die-stamp mark is prior to 1925.
Title: Re: Weller Jardiniere
Post by: debodun on March 05, 2012, 12:59:10 PM
Thanks for that tidbit of info. At least I know it's around 90 years old.
Title: Re: Weller Jardiniere
Post by: mart on March 05, 2012, 03:28:16 PM
Its nice the way you have it done but those pics are so big and the file is so large it would take me forever to download and see it all !!
Title: Re: Weller Jardiniere
Post by: debodun on March 05, 2012, 04:23:15 PM
Imagine how long it too to do it all!
Title: Re: Weller Jardiniere
Post by: mart on March 05, 2012, 04:32:40 PM
I can imagine it took a while !!
Title: Re: Weller Jardiniere
Post by: KC on March 05, 2012, 08:35:36 PM
Recommend that you make a photo of each item and place a number next to it.  Then research item and record under that number until you load the pic in the computer and unite the research and pic (this is if you have a whole lot if pieces).  Otherwise...it will get to where the descriptions can fit alot of the items as you go along!  :)
Title: Re: Weller Jardiniere
Post by: debodun on March 06, 2012, 06:18:25 AM
Good advice. Thanks! Here are some photos of the things just in the cellar. It was like finding Tut's tomb.
Title: Re: Weller Jardiniere
Post by: sapphire on March 06, 2012, 06:41:34 AM
 :o  OMG!!  It's a veritable treasure trove!  I certainly don't envy you your task.......but oh, how many of us would love to be set loose in that glass menagerie for an hour or two (or three). 
Title: Re: Weller Jardiniere
Post by: debodun on March 06, 2012, 07:52:55 AM
I started inventorying with what I thought was Depression glass. Ther are dozens of patterns of that but not so many as the EAPG! And the china - some of the marks I can't even read. Many are in Asian characters (see attachment).
Title: Re: Weller Jardiniere
Post by: KevinB on March 06, 2012, 11:57:58 AM
I just found a forum yesturday dedicated to helping people with asian art pieces and inscriptions. They should be able to atleast translate for you.

http://www.asianart.com/phpforum/index.php
Title: Re: Weller Jardiniere
Post by: talesofthesevenseas on March 06, 2012, 07:47:13 PM
Wow, you have got some neat pieces there! Ironlord could probably tell you more about them, he's good with the glassware. I only collect cobalt blue, so I can only help a little with those. The Moderntone sugar bowl sells for about $12-$20 ish. The Shirley Temple pieces I see all the time in antique stores, it doesn't seem to move very well. Your Shirley T. pitcher is small right, about 4"? if so, I think they run about $12 ish. The little cobalt cup with the metal lid is an egg coddler, I can't find one like yours for comparison though.

The blue and white oriental plates are "Blue Willow" pattern and the old ones can be quite desireable. Same with the "flow blue" which are the blue and white pieces that are kind of blurry. These are old and you have to just deal with them on a case-by-case basis. There are lots of turkey plates out there, to sort through until the pattern can be identified, is there a marking on the back?

Your lovely depression glass bowl is selling on Ebay for $37 with Buy it Now.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HAZEL-ATLAS-ROYAL-LACE-COBALT-BLUE-ROUND-SERVING-BOWL-/290641864261 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/HAZEL-ATLAS-ROYAL-LACE-COBALT-BLUE-ROUND-SERVING-BOWL-/290641864261)

I hope that helps a little!
Title: Re: Weller Jardiniere
Post by: debodun on March 07, 2012, 11:23:58 AM
I think the blue piece you said was an egg coddler is actually a mustard server. It has an aluminum lid with a little hole in it for a spoon. It's the Petalware pattern and lists in Gene Florence's 11th edition Depression glass book for $8. I know the Shirly Temple 5" pitcher's are being reproduced which probably scares off anyone that is in the "know". I can only say that the one I have is older because my mom bought before reproductions were being made. I'm fairly confident at identifying Depression glass, especially if it has an etched pattern, it's the EAPG that has me in a tizzy trying to identify. Thanks for your input, though.
Title: Re: Weller Jardiniere
Post by: talesofthesevenseas on March 07, 2012, 07:47:13 PM
Ah, I missed the hole! Sorry about that! It sounds like you have done a lot of research already. Good for you!
Title: Re: Weller Jardiniere
Post by: debodun on March 08, 2012, 06:08:01 AM
I always try to exhaust other resources (books, dealers, Online antique sites) before I bother people on message boards with my inability to identify something. I'm still in a limbo on how to tell EAPG from cut glass. I tried to find the pattern of the sugar and creamer shown below, thinking it was EAPG, but someone told me it was cut glass. I am mystified.