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Antiques! => Antique Questions Forum => Topic started by: llwjones on March 15, 2012, 12:29:16 PM
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My father my grandmother purchased this be because it was a Prudent Mallard bed, but there are no identifying marks on it...is there a way to verify this?
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I would go to this site as it is all about victorian furniture and post a few pics there.
http://victorianforum.com/
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thanks - I will try
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Lots of folks over there that specialize in Victorian, i'll drop by and see how you are doing. They have period manufacturers catalogs as well that really help in identification.
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I have tried several times to register on that site...but can never enter the visual verification - maybe my browser isn't compatible
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http://www.antique-shop.com/forums/index.php?topic=3760.0
This might help you !! From an old post here when D&B Antiques was still active !!
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Hmmmmm, did you go to this page to register?
http://victorianforum.com/help/?page=registering#how-to
If that isnt working, i would email the admin on RV site and he can help you.
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Prudence Mallard's furniture was of the highest quality and is sought after by many southern collectors.
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Since you are having issues over on RV, thought i'd post a few discussions most relevant to your situation. You can read threads, you just cant post comments without registering.
http://victorianforum.com/victorian-furniture/prudent-mallard-bed-at-auction/
http://victorianforum.com/antique-furniture-attributions/prudent-mallard-bed/
http://victorianforum.com/general-discussion/prudent-mallard-furniture/
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If you go to live auctioneers sold page and type in PM bed, here is what they look like
http://www.liveauctioneers.com/search?q=prudent+mallard+bed&&sort=relevance&dtype=gallery&type=complete&rows=20
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Jacon4, the thread I posted from an old question about a PM bed,,D&B Antiques said that some of the beds were marked by one of his craftsmen (forget the name but it is on the link) was on the inside of the side rail,, but many were unmarked I think !!
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Yeah, I think that same bed was posted over on RV and identified as from Charles Lee. I think P Mallard furniture mostly had paper labels signed P. Mallard . Another thing to keep in mind, he imported alot of furniture, mostly from France, in which he attached his label, further complicating who the maker was. He specialized in rococo renaissance revival furniture of VERY LARGE proportions and much of his furniture, particularly beds, have been altered for modern spaces. Heres a labeled piece of his furniture.
http://www.cowanauctions.com/auctions/past-item.aspx?ItemId=98932
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Getting back to the OP question, was your bed made by P. Mallard? Probably not, it does not have the proportions nor the elaborate carvings when one thinks of P Mallard furniture. Hopefully, you can post over on RV when you register and someone can identify who the maker of your bed is.
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I am not an expert by any stretch of the imagination,, but this one looks typical Eastlake to me !! I agree that the few PM beds I have seen were more elaborate and somewhat different in style than this one !!
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Well, i would say late RR (1860-70), but it certainly isnt rococo which was Mallard's main claim to fame.
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I am so far from an expert it's laughable, but my first impression was Eastlake. I'd never heard of Prudence Mallard until this thread so started searching. They definitely tend to have much more elaborate detail..........whi le the cleaner lines of the Eastlake appeal more to me.
Came across this example of an Eastlake. While not a four poster it certainly has more in common to my untrained eyes.
http://buffaloah.com/a/lin/440/11br/br.html#Eastlake
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I was totally thinking the same thing. I have been looking to see if PM's had a style I had never seen...they are much more elaborate like Louis/French era....
This looks more Arts/Crafts and or Eastlake Style to me!
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To me that is a typical Eastlake Style, with Renaissance revival influence, bed and was probably part of a bedroom set. It is a very nice piece. Even the one they are calling Eastlake in the site to me is not entirely Eastlake style but has the same influence.
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Not sure what everyone is looking at,, but Eastlake was only an interpretive style. What it looked like was totally up to whoever made it !! Its called Eastlake if it conforms to his definition !! Since he never built a single piece of furniture,, it remains just his idea !!
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Mallard's first name was Prudent, although it's sometimes misspelled as "Prudence."
This bed is clearly renaissance revival, probably factory made in Ohio or Michigan ca. 1875. As the pictures later in the thread show, Mallard's stuff was rococo revival, 1850s-60s.