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Title: What is it updated
Post by: firepolice4 on May 13, 2012, 09:54:08 AM

Thanks to everyones input it is a tear gas billy club but the model I have is brass not aluminum

Title: Re: What is it
Post by: mart on May 13, 2012, 06:00:46 PM

If you will put this on the Questions forum,, someone may know,, also a better pic and a description would help !!  This forum is not normally used to get info about an object !! Will try to help but we need more information !!  Any markings on it ??

Title: Re: What is it
Post by: sapphire on May 14, 2012, 07:29:24 AM

Ditto what mart said. In the Questions forum you'll get a lot more views and input.

First thought that came to my mind was a billy club.......but without knowing size or any other detail that could be way out of the ballpark.

Measurements, is that a leather strap (loop?), is the end bound in leather, any markings?  Any info you can supply along with clear pics from different angles would help in indentifying. ;)

Played with the pic just to see if I could see more though

Title: Re: What is it updated
Post by: KC on May 16, 2012, 10:55:47 AM

Did it screw onto anything?  (Are threads visibly or wear marks where it might have the end slip into something?  LIke an umbrella gun?
(http://sull.tv/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Umbrella-gun-round-2-300x225.jpg)

I would be wary of this one being a billy club. Too easy to shoot yourself while clubbing the culprit!

You might enjoy this sight with all kinds of unusual guns/pistols.
http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2008/02/miniature-spy-guns.html# (http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2008/02/miniature-spy-guns.html#)
I have collected pics and info on different ones for years....Find them interesting having working in law enforcement in my younger years!

Title: Re: What is it updated
Post by: talesofthesevenseas on May 16, 2012, 12:30:54 PM

I would take this to your local gun shop. They should be able to tell you how it functions at the very least.

Title: Re: What is it updated
Post by: Rauville on May 16, 2012, 04:05:02 PM

To me it looks like a "tear gas billy club" from the 1920's.

Title: Re: What is it updated
Post by: mart on May 16, 2012, 04:47:08 PM

I am clueless !!  Is the front part solid ?? Like hard rubber ?? Can it be taken apart ??

Title: Re: What is it updated
Post by: KC on May 16, 2012, 09:27:59 PM

Rauville....you got it!!!!!

Pages 40 & 41   History of this item!
http://books.google.com/books?id=OHgh0mHgrWYC&pg=PA41&lpg=PA41&dq=tear+gas+billy+club+1925&source=bl&ots=Wg80lPFyBR&sig=loiZCwROpJuOfrh1L9Jr72QS8Fs&hl=en&sa=X&ei=iG-0T6jUAcfM2AWcm7kl&ved=0CGMQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=tear%20gas%20billy%20club%201925&f=false (http://books.google.com/books?id=OHgh0mHgrWYC&pg=PA41&lpg=PA41&dq=tear+gas+billy+club+1925&source=bl&ots=Wg80lPFyBR&sig=loiZCwROpJuOfrh1L9Jr72QS8Fs&hl=en&sa=X&ei=iG-0T6jUAcfM2AWcm7kl&ved=0CGMQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=tear%20gas%20billy%20club%201925&f=false)


Police Tear Gas Billy Club
Price Realized: $345.00
Auction: 2010, Fall Historic Firearms and Early Militaria, Oct. 28 & 29
Crime and Punishment > Law Enforcement > Other
Mfg. by Federal Laboratories, Inc., Pittsburgh, PA., 9.5" long, aluminum handle, leather covered brass construction, Pat. dates Sept. 15, 1925, Dec. 15, 1925, Dec. 29, 1925. The handle unscrews for loading of a teargas cartridge and the knurled knob on the end is a cocking device. There is a trigger on the handle.
Condition: This piece is in excellent condition and seems to function perfectly.
http://www.cowanauctions.com/auctions/item.aspx?ItemId=78090 (http://www.cowanauctions.com/auctions/item.aspx?ItemId=78090)

Interesting Notion that this one ponders - if it is legal to own without being registered!!!
http://oldguns.net/q&a6_09.htm (http://oldguns.net/q&a6_09.htm)
# 13451 - Federal Gas Billy Club  6/23/2009  Julie Illinois  FEDERAL LABORATORIES 1925

Title: Re: What is it updated
Post by: mart on May 17, 2012, 08:52:23 AM

Never saw one of those !!  Where does the tear gas exit the club ??

Title: Re: What is it updated
Post by: aDawn on May 17, 2012, 09:00:50 AM

Wow, cool find! That's not something you see every day, huh?