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Antiques! => Antique Questions Forum => Topic started by: frogpatch on June 10, 2012, 05:24:56 PM
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Here we go again! This was a one dollar buy this weekend at a garage sale. I found this in a box of frames. It is small, measuring only 8 x 10 inches. It is signed JM Forrest 1938. I know there was a western school of painters in the 30s. I have read about them and seen examples on Antiques Road Show. I tried to look on line but found nothing about that school because I can't remember the name. The last name of the artist is so common as a first name. I get a lot of Forrest Gump and Forrest Bess who is a very notable person. I also do not know the real name of the school unlike the Hudson River School, which we all know. I am really asking for your help on this one. I like the subject matter and I know fly fishing is a popular theme. The painting to me looks well executed to me. Another odd thing is that the size of the canvas board is listed on the label as 18 x 24 inches. Thanks
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Oooops! Forgot pix. Sorry
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Your painting almost has a feeling of Scotland about it. No connection I'm sure, but there was an artist by the name of James Forrest that did somewhat similar Scottish landscapes around 50 years prior to yours.
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Thats interesting. I never thought about it possibly being Scottish. Fly fishing in the Highlands. That is a possibility. Maybe James had a son or lived to be 100 years old.
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Thats interesting. I never thought about it possibly being Scottish. Fly fishing in the Highlands. That is a possibility. Maybe James had a son or lived to be 100 years old.
I doubt if it was James, but maybe a relative was inspired to follow in his steps.
http://www.antiquesreporter.com.au/index.cfm/lot/309525-james-haughton-forrest-1826-1925-oil-on-board-scottish-lake-scen/ (http://www.antiquesreporter.com.au/index.cfm/lot/309525-james-haughton-forrest-1826-1925-oil-on-board-scottish-lake-scen/)
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He was 99 when he died in 1926. Definitely not him. Hopefully someone can shed some more light on this. The fact that the board was American makes me think the artist is also. In the thirties a Scottish painters supplies would probably be made across the pond. I wouldn't think they would import from the US back then.
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Can you tell what medium it was done in ?? Oil, watercolor, acrylic ??
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It is oil, Mart. I should have mentioned that. It has also yellowed a bit. I think it may have received a top coat of something.
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Most older shcools of art used a varnish top coat !!
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Now there were lots of artists that painted similar scenes in/of the Catskill Mts. and especially in Upstate NY such as Trenton Falls and the area which now is encompassed by the Adirondack State Park which is a horrendously large preserve.
When I lived up there the Adirondack League Club, which was founded in the 1890s, controlled over 50,000+- acres of wilderness with their own security patrolling it and gated entrances.
And I guess they still do: http://prfamerica.org/stats/Stats-AdirondackLeagueClub.html (http://prfamerica.org/stats/Stats-AdirondackLeagueClub.html)
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I spent a lot of time camping in the Catskills and the Adirondacks and to me the landscape in the painting does not look like what I knew from the area. The Adirondacks are covered with deep green conifers and the Catskills are a hardwood mix. Both are rounded form the glaciers. These mountains to me look like they are more rugged like western foothills. No glacial wear to the shape and the flat area of grass also looks more like a western plateau. That is at least how I see it. Thanks
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I spent a lot of time camping in the
. Adirondacks
.. The Adirondacks are covered with deep green conifers
are rounded form the glaciers
Im sure that is what you remember
.. but,
. a picture is worth 1,000 words, to wit:
Adirondack Mountains-in-autumn-northern-New-York
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/media/95723/Adirondack-Mountains-in-autumn-northern-New-York (http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/media/95723/Adirondack-Mountains-in-autumn-northern-New-York)
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And ps,
. frogpatch,
.this is one of my many memories of different camps located in the Adirondacks.
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Note that the mountain tops are smooth and green. Not pointy and bare. I am sorry but there is no resemblance between the painting and that region. Take a second look. I am familiar with the area as I am from Northern NJ and had family in Glens Falls and Scoharie. I spent every summer up there. My wife and I are planning a trip this summer.
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You know,, there is a possibility that the scene is purely fictional and doesn`t represent any particular place !! I always started my classes that way !! Inventing their own scenes !! It teaches them to use their minds and not rely on a pic or a photo or going plein aire !!
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Take a second look. I am familiar with the area as I am from Northern NJ and had family in Glens Falls and Scoharie. I spent every summer up there.
My royal flush beats your 2 pair. I spent nigh onto 18 years in Herkimer County.
Small world, as they say.
My 1st wife was from the Cobleskill area.
She was working as a nurse at MIBH when we met.
She's the one that moved, ....... to Herkimer.
And "NO", I'm not BS'ing you. My last name is still very well remembered up that away.
As Mart said, artists paint scenes from inspiration and their imagination.
Here is an oil I painted, of the latter catagory, my 1st ever landscape, on my brother's living room wall in Pennsyl.. That's what he wanted and I thunked it and painted what I was thinking. He liked it and that's all that matters.
Cheers
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Oh well, I might as well show you another one of my inspirational oils while Im in the mood. Its a little better than my 1st one pictured above.
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Painting a flat topped mountain would not be in the average imagination nor would be the separations of the smaller branching off of the streams unless the person had actually seen a place like this once and had a lucid memory. I see photos of Wyoming, Colorado and Montana that look similar. Especially around Glacier National Park.
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I like the first one better !! I have done a number of murals in private homes and my brothers BBQ restaurant !! Did have a bunch of my class pics and a few of mine in Picture Trail,, but they deleted them because I didn`t use it enough !!