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Title: Antique Chair Question (Idk if we can post 2 questions in the forum or not).
Post by: xmelax38 on June 24, 2012, 10:05:51 PM
First of all, I don't know if we are allowed to post more than one forum question, but here I go (I apologize if we are not).  This should be my last one for now. I have this chair we purchased from an auction. It was an online type Estate auction. It was not in the photos and kind of put in with the lot of stuff we bought (it was a surprise to us). We actually had 2 chairs from the auction. One of them was a Victorian Walnut Side Chair. Then there was this other one. We have no idea what kind of chair it is. I have never seen one before. It reminds me (and I could be wrong here) something of renaissance.  I think that is because of the bolts in the chair and the holes and such. If anyone has an idea of what kind of chair this could be and any information, I would really appreciate it. (I think it could be walnut). To me it looks nothing like a modern day kitchen chair. This was not in with the kitchen items in the auction.


(http://i652.photobucket.com/albums/uu247/jellymel36/DSCI4442.jpg)

(http://i652.photobucket.com/albums/uu247/jellymel36/DSCI4445.jpg)

Thank you ahead of time. :)
Title: Re: Antique Chair Question (Idk if we can post 2 questions in the forum or not).
Post by: fancypants on June 24, 2012, 10:22:48 PM
Cool little chair , xm ...

I'm curious to know if this chair originally had a caned seat , since the current seat/covering looks like a 'repair' & not of the era of the item as a whole ....

(You can look underneath the seat to see if there are a bunch of smallish holes drilled at regular intervals through the seat-frame perimeter)
Title: Re: Antique Chair Question (Idk if we can post 2 questions in the forum or not).
Post by: cogar on June 25, 2012, 04:11:28 AM
I agree, fancypants.

That chair should have a "softer" sitting seat.
Title: Re: Antique Chair Question (Idk if we can post 2 questions in the forum or not).
Post by: KC on June 25, 2012, 08:03:50 AM
I sure wish my aunt had internet/computer etc.  She got a chair from my grandparents that is made in the same style like this....never had a cushion....and has drilled holes.  Seat is a different wood from rest of chair body.  Beautiful piece in it's own right.

They didn't make a whole lot of chairs of this style with cushions.  They were everyday use style chairs and not for the parlor or formal areas that were more extravagant.
Title: Re: Antique Chair Question (Idk if we can post 2 questions in the forum or not).
Post by: xmelax38 on June 25, 2012, 08:06:30 AM
Hi! Yes, it definitely has drilled holes in the bottom.  Here is a picture:

(http://i652.photobucket.com/albums/uu247/jellymel36/DSCI4446.jpg)
Title: Re: Antique Chair Question (Idk if we can post 2 questions in the forum or not).
Post by: mart on June 25, 2012, 09:39:07 AM
Your chair is likely early 30`s or thereabout !! I have a similar one in storage !! The top crest sometimes has an impressed flower design in the center !! Couldn`t see if yours does or not !! They were typically a bedroom type chair for a dressing table or such and could be bought as a single rather than a set !! Popular with the ladies because of the styling !! I have never seen one this style with a padded seat !!  There is another post with a seat like yours by Kidden I think !!  These seats could be purchased at hardware or general stores for repairs when a caned seat was damaged !!
Title: Re: Antique Chair Question (Idk if we can post 2 questions in the forum or not).
Post by: xmelax38 on June 25, 2012, 11:43:28 AM
Thank you very much for the information! I do appreciate it a lot! :) You have been very helpful.
Title: Re: Antique Chair Question (Idk if we can post 2 questions in the forum or not).
Post by: talesofthesevenseas on June 25, 2012, 12:40:21 PM
You're welcome to post as many items as you like! Our only restriction here is that you don't use the forums for selling goods or services. It's intended to do just what you are doing here, posting photos, answering questions and giving everyone a chance to learn in the process!
Title: Re: Antique Chair Question (Idk if we can post 2 questions in the forum or not).
Post by: mart on June 25, 2012, 12:51:35 PM
Yes,, Please feel free to post your items and ask questions !!  Meant to say that earlier and forgot !! Thanks to Talesofthesevenseas for taking up our slack and being a great mod. !!  Sometimes we forget !!
Title: Re: Antique Chair Question (Idk if we can post 2 questions in the forum or not).
Post by: KC on June 26, 2012, 12:10:20 AM
Ditto!  Post away!
Title: Re: Antique Chair Question (Idk if we can post 2 questions in the forum or not).
Post by: kidden6968 on June 26, 2012, 08:16:52 PM
Yes I did just obtain a chair with almost the same seat board.  Mine however does not have the little holes in the bottom as if it had been caned at one time.  I actually have been unable to find any other holes or markings that might indicate this is a replacement.  In any case, I think they are neat!
Title: Re: Antique Chair Question (Idk if we can post 2 questions in the forum or not).
Post by: frogpatch on June 26, 2012, 08:40:21 PM
Here I go again being the thorn in my friend Marts side, but I thought that to be a Victorian Cottage style side chair from the latter half of the 19th century. Check out the restoration in this blog

http://johnmarkpower.blogspot.com/2011/09/victorian-beech-side-chair-ca-1875-part.html
Title: Re: Antique Chair Question (Idk if we can post 2 questions in the forum or not).
Post by: ghopper1924 on June 27, 2012, 03:59:58 AM
The chair has a couple of basic Eastlake flourishes. I'd date it to ca. 1890-1900. Nice!
Title: Re: Antique Chair Question (Idk if we can post 2 questions in the forum or not).
Post by: cogar on June 27, 2012, 05:16:39 AM
kidden, some chairs were made for installing pre-caned seats and if yours was there would be like a 3/16" x 1/4" groove cut around the top of the seat in the same location those holes are in the seat in the above picture. You would have to remove the "seat panel" on yours to see that groove. And if there, you could replace it with a new pre-caned seat which is quite simple to do compared to manually re-weaving one out of caning fiber. 
Title: Re: Antique Chair Question (Idk if we can post 2 questions in the forum or not).
Post by: frogpatch on June 27, 2012, 06:04:41 AM
Look at the link I posted.. There is a complete restoration of an almost identical chair circa 1874  Same seat, same legs, similar back and the same side rails
Title: Re: Antique Chair Question (Idk if we can post 2 questions in the forum or not).
Post by: mart on June 27, 2012, 08:22:35 AM
Could be Frogpatch,, I would not argue the date as this type chair was made for many years !! I based my opinion on the wood which I would bet an RC coca cola and a Moonpie is mahogany !!  It was in use more in early 1900`s for cottage or less expensive furniture !!  Say 1920 through 30 !! But could just as easily be earlier !!
Title: Re: Antique Chair Question (Idk if we can post 2 questions in the forum or not).
Post by: frogpatch on June 27, 2012, 10:55:20 AM
If you make it fried catfish and hush puppies, you have a bet. I would say it is a cheaper wood stained dark that has turned darker like poplar or beech. Look at the underside of the seat.  I don't see mahogany grain there, do you?
Title: Re: Antique Chair Question (Idk if we can post 2 questions in the forum or not).
Post by: xmelax38 on June 27, 2012, 11:09:19 AM
Thank you very much! I really appreciate the input/comments. I also, will check out that link. I really appreciate everything everyone has said. This is the best site ever!!!!
Title: Re: Antique Chair Question (Idk if we can post 2 questions in the forum or not).
Post by: xmelax38 on June 27, 2012, 11:13:05 AM
I think that is the same amount of holes on the bottom and everything. That is very interesting. :) Our chair won't fit into the furniture, we are hoping to buy (through an auction) for our living room (Queen Anne), but maybe I can make it fit into our bedroom one day. I am really unsure what to do with this chair right now.
Title: Re: Antique Chair Question (Idk if we can post 2 questions in the forum or not).
Post by: mart on June 27, 2012, 01:38:31 PM
If you make it fried catfish and hush puppies, you have a bet. I would say it is a cheaper wood stained dark that has turned darker like poplar or beech. Look at the underside of the seat.  I don't see mahogany grain there, do you?

No, but look at the second pic ! There is a seam on the left !!  I think the under side is a separate wood and was only faced with the mahogany around the perimeter !!  The pic showing the underside,, look at the edge on the left showing darker than the secondary wood !!  You can just make out the edge of it in that little triangular spot !!  But I would go  catfish and hushpuppies anyway for you !!
Title: Re: Antique Chair Question (Idk if we can post 2 questions in the forum or not).
Post by: frogpatch on June 27, 2012, 01:46:26 PM
Y'all leave a chair at the table for me.
Title: Re: Antique Chair Question (Idk if we can post 2 questions in the forum or not).
Post by: mart on June 27, 2012, 02:12:35 PM
LOL !!     Will do !!
Title: Re: Antique Chair Question (Idk if we can post 2 questions in the forum or not).
Post by: ghopper1924 on June 27, 2012, 07:34:48 PM
Mart is correct; this is a chair type that was made for many years. I would say that the link, however, is just a bit earlier as "our" chair (due to the back rails or splats) is more clearly indebted to Eastlake.

However, I'd be surprised if the wood was mahogany. Mahogany (and rosewood) was the cadillac of wood choices in the mid 19th century, then again in the 1930s and 40s during the colonial revival. Walnut, beech or ash is more likely for "our" chair.
Title: Re: Antique Chair Question (Idk if we can post 2 questions in the forum or not).
Post by: KC on June 27, 2012, 11:18:52 PM
If you combine the food requests of both of you...you have a full meal!  :)
Title: Re: Antique Chair Question (Idk if we can post 2 questions in the forum or not).
Post by: cogar on June 28, 2012, 06:05:34 AM

Basswood or Linden and Yellow Poplar were/are used in furniture making.

But looking at the underneath side of the seat, my guess is walnut.

Black Walnut is really not black, ya know, but it is named such because of the White Walnut or Butternut, which is also a beautiful wood.

Interesting fact about Black Walnut is that direct exposure to Sunlight will turn it blacker n’ blacker.

My favorite wood is Sumac, when paired with Black Walnut to make lamps, checker boards, etc. (see picture on my "Gaff Hook" posting.)
Title: Re: Antique Chair Question (Idk if we can post 2 questions in the forum or not).
Post by: xmelax38 on June 28, 2012, 07:39:11 AM
We don't really know our wood really well. We do know our Victorian Side Chair is Walnut, but this one we are not sure. My uncle knows his wood really well and lives near by us. I may take it to him to see what it is made of. :)
Title: Re: Antique Chair Question (Idk if we can post 2 questions in the forum or not).
Post by: mart on June 28, 2012, 09:04:01 AM
Its really not that important !! Frogpatch and I just have to one up each other in fun occassionally !!  Each of us can look at the same pic and see different things !!  Besides,, if you find out and I lose,, I have to catch and cook catfish and make hushpuppies so don`t rush !!
Title: Re: Antique Chair Question (Idk if we can post 2 questions in the forum or not).
Post by: frogpatch on June 28, 2012, 07:29:53 PM
Mart, come have a Jersey Shore special. Its a pork roll, egg and cheese sandwich on a hard roll.  What's a hard roll? Its a roll that's not hard just crispy on the outside and soft on the inside.  It a Jersey thing.   
Title: Re: Antique Chair Question (Idk if we can post 2 questions in the forum or not).
Post by: mart on June 29, 2012, 10:07:38 AM
Sound good !!  Is a pork roll a slice of pork loin ?? Or just good old bacon !!  I do a similar sandwich here but good breads are difficult to get since no bakery in this town !!  We do have Wal mart and the grocery stores,, but then again,, I said good bread !!