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Antiques! => Antique Questions Forum => Topic started by: goodbye2you on August 07, 2012, 09:38:00 PM
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my friend has a really old picture and wants to know what it might be cause me and him cant find it anywhere any help? (http://i47.tinypic.com/984p00.jpg) the back of the picture frame just shows brown paper
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Can you see brush strokes when looking close or using magnification? Appears to be English 18thc, If original oil on canvas could be high value if a print not so much, Beautiful frame, needs a hands on inspection by an expert in 18thc English artwork. If it is the real deal you will not find another as families commissioned painters to do one of a kind paintings of family members.
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Upper rt hand corner shows wrinkles so likely a print on paper !! I see a glare on left,, is there a glass over the front !! If so print most likely,, could possibly be watercolor but doesn`t look like it !!
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Mart that isn't wrinkles it is a frame of a building in the picture.
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Maybe I didn't see what you saw Mart sorry
did you mean on the right side of the picture in middle that looks like a wrinkle
left side as we look at it
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Can you see brush strokes when looking close or using magnification? Appears to be English 18thc, If original oil on canvas could be high value if a print not so much, Beautiful frame, needs a hands on inspection by an expert in 18thc English artwork. If it is the real deal you will not find another as families commissioned painters to do one of a kind paintings of family members.
well it seems like i can see brush strokes i dont see any wrinkles in it but i was told its this person http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgiana_Cavendish,_Duchess_of_Devonshire#Fashion_and_debt and the frame i was told to be some kind of plaster?
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Upper rt hand corner shows wrinkles so likely a print on paper !! I see a glare on left,, is there a glass over the front !! If so print most likely,, could possibly be watercolor but doesn`t look like it !!
yes glass is in the frame at least i assume its glass but i dont see any wrinkles enless im blind lol
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The frame is probably gessoed.
The picture looks like one found in better antique shops as a reproduction, usually around $100-$300.
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Looking closer could well be the edge of a building in upper right corner !! If glassed has to be either water color or print !! No glass on oils or it ruins it !! Can you take a close up of the paper ??
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Not related but I just saw that stein with the dog at goodwill today. Almost bought it...
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Not related but I just saw that stein with the dog at goodwill today. Almost bought it...
haha thats where i found that one it was like 50 cents
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Looking closer could well be the edge of a building in upper right corner !! If glassed has to be either water color or print !! No glass on oils or it ruins it !! Can you take a close up of the paper ?? everytime i try to get closer i get a big glare from the reflection but ill try again once my battery gets charged my friend decided to sell it to me for 10 dollars
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Frame is worth way more than that if in good condition !!
Try using your zoom and see if that helps !! Stand in front and zoom in !!
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I'll take it for a tenner!
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I'll take it for a tenner!
I have often told a few I would give them their money back !! Some make really good buys !!
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Interesting piece. Her eyes could follow you anywhere in the room!!!!!
I am speculating that is an arbor with all the greenery around,
The frame is definitely the value in this piece - that is if this is a reproduction piece. There will be someone to want it!
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Yes, the frame is nice alright.
I imagine that the original painting is in a museum.
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Re the two pictures, the clothing and pose is the same the face and expression are different.
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That is what I noticed as well jondar. The original doesn't have those "eyes" that follow you!
(http://www.fullfreestuff.com/free-graphics/downloads/animation/Eyes/animated%20female%20eye.gif)
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KC - I'm wondering if someone may have "blotted out" the original Duchess's" face and painted in someone else's. The quality of the face in the O.P.'s picture doesn't seem to have the same quality of the face in the original. That is, if the picture in the link is an original. I wish I knew more about painting, there's probably a story here.
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I think this was done from a copy of Gainsboroughs painting !! Way too many differences in the two for it to be done from the original !! If this were mine I would take it out of the frame and see if it has a printmakers name !! It would not be not unusual for copies to be made after it was in the public domain !! You could copy and sell or make prints from the original as many as you wanted with no problems !!
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I think this was done from a copy of Gainsboroughs painting !! Way too many differences in the two for it to be done from the original !! If this were mine I would take it out of the frame and see if it has a printmakers name !! It would not be not unusual for copies to be made after it was in the public domain !! You could copy and sell or make prints from the original as many as you wanted with no problems !!
i'm kinda afraid to do that cause the back of the frame is like brown paper and i would have to rip it off to look at the painting
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Tap the back and see if it isn`t hard underneath that paper !! That on back is a dust cover,, just brown paper !! Take a pic of that back and post it please !!
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Tap the back and see if it isn`t hard underneath that paper !! That on back is a dust cover,, just brown paper !! Take a pic of that back and post it please !!
yeah its hard on the back and i need new batteries still for my cam lol
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Hi I believe it is a Gansbrough print popular early 20th century regards Martin