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Title: Need some more info about JD&S plates please
Post by: The Tinkerer on August 20, 2012, 02:21:00 AM

Hello,

I picked up these 2 silver plated plates by JD&S at the weekend from a car boot sale for £5. They are 6" in diameter, the tops of the plates are in reasonable condition with no missing or scratched off areas of silver plate, they are covered in light scratches though. The undersides have suffered quite a bit with several areas of missing silver plate particularly around the bass rim.

I have a few questions that hopefully someone can help me with.

1) I have read that the city mark for Sheffield was a crown and then later on a  rose. Is the symbol above the bugle on these plates the crown city mark for Sheffield? It does look a little crown like but not really in my opinion.

2) The best I have managed to achieve in dating this is between 1879 when they started using the bugle / trumpet mark and 1935 when they stopped electroplate manufacture. I have read that they did use the bugle / trumpet mark unofficially before 1879 though. Is anyone able to date these a little more accurately?

3) Does anyone know what specific type of plates these would have been i.e. side plates?

4) Based on their current condition is anyone who knows the UK market able to give a rough estimate as to their value? I know EPBM is less valuable due to it being more susceptible to the plate scratching off etc.


Thanks in advance for any help.

(http://www.thetrinkettrader.co.uk/images/jd1.jpg)
(http://www.thetrinkettrader.co.uk/images/jd2.jpg)
(http://www.thetrinkettrader.co.uk/images/jd3.jpg)
(http://www.thetrinkettrader.co.uk/images/jd4.jpg)
(http://www.thetrinkettrader.co.uk/images/jd5.jpg)
(http://www.thetrinkettrader.co.uk/images/jd6.jpg)
(http://www.thetrinkettrader.co.uk/images/jd7.jpg)
(http://www.thetrinkettrader.co.uk/images/jd8.jpg)
(http://www.thetrinkettrader.co.uk/images/jd9.jpg)
(http://www.thetrinkettrader.co.uk/images/jd10.jpg)

Title: Re: Need some more info about JD&S plates please
Post by: bbc-antiques.co.uk on August 20, 2012, 07:19:08 AM

They are brittannia silver ( part pewter / spelter) by James Dixons Sheffield early 20th c  of low value £10-40

Title: Re: Need some more info about JD&S plates please
Post by: The Tinkerer on August 20, 2012, 01:09:57 PM

Tx for the info BBC. I don't suppose you know if the mark above the bugle is indeed the Sheffield city mark?

Title: Re: Need some more info about JD&S plates please
Post by: mart on August 20, 2012, 01:24:15 PM

I would guess that these are salad /dessert plates !! Sorry can`t help with the mark but it does not look like a crown to me !!

Title: Re: Need some more info about JD&S plates please
Post by: The Tinkerer on August 20, 2012, 02:46:25 PM

Thanks Mart.

Title: Re: Need some more info about JD&S plates please
Post by: KC on August 20, 2012, 03:36:21 PM

My first impression was a charger plate.  I didn't see where dimensions are posted.

Title: Re: Need some more info about JD&S plates please
Post by: The Tinkerer on August 21, 2012, 01:54:27 AM

Hi KC,

They are 6 inch Diameter.

Title: Re: Need some more info about JD&S plates please
Post by: ghopper1924 on August 21, 2012, 05:30:01 AM

Yeah, looks like charger plates.

Title: Re: Need some more info about JD&S plates please
Post by: The Tinkerer on August 21, 2012, 09:46:21 AM

Thanks all.

Title: Re: Need some more info about JD&S plates please
Post by: mart on August 21, 2012, 07:15:50 PM

Charger plate would be 10+ inches !!

Title: Re: Need some more info about JD&S plates please
Post by: bbc-antiques.co.uk on August 22, 2012, 12:06:06 PM

not the Sheffield mark as such but probably denotes they were based there ! regards Martin