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Title: Bronze Rooster Man
Post by: msghopper1924 on August 25, 2012, 01:33:25 PM
We saw this bronze sculpture at an estate sale. It's about 2 feet high, and that's all we know about it, except that it is supposed to be by a sculptor named Guillermo Gomez.

We can find out nothing about this artist. This is the only photo we could get...sorry it's not more clear.

Any information would help! The asking price is $12,000 !!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Bronze Rooster Man
Post by: bigwull on August 25, 2012, 01:53:26 PM
For a moment there, I thought i read $12.00...and was about to say....and you did,nt buy it!!!!!!!!
i think its time i went for my yearly eye test,now...rather than wait 2 months.....
Title: Re: Bronze Rooster Man
Post by: Rauville on August 25, 2012, 01:55:37 PM
Apparently the artist works in Puerto Vallarta, Mexico. Check out the images at the bottom of the page for another example of "Rooster Man". 

http://for-travel.org/Guillermo-Gomez-Galleria-Dante-Vallarta-2.shtml.htm (http://for-travel.org/Guillermo-Gomez-Galleria-Dante-Vallarta-2.shtml.htm)
Title: Re: Bronze Rooster Man
Post by: bigwull on August 25, 2012, 02:15:15 PM
Now I know where Gene Wilder got his Rooster suit from in Stir Crazy.....its a fantastic figure
Title: Re: Bronze Rooster Man
Post by: msghopper1924 on August 25, 2012, 03:06:49 PM
Rauville....Thank you! That's the artist. We searched and searched and couldn't find anything. Now, if only you could get us a price on Rooster Man!  :)
Title: Re: Bronze Rooster Man
Post by: ACStanley on August 25, 2012, 03:15:17 PM
Man, art is just one of those things... Is it a one of a kind? How much do you like it? How old is it? How reputable is the artist? Lol and most importantly, how much can you afford?

I love the piece... But I wouldn't spend 12K on it... But, perhaps thats only because I don't have an extra 12K to through around...

Best wishes in you decision.
Title: Re: Bronze Rooster Man
Post by: bigwull on August 25, 2012, 03:24:45 PM
and here was me thinking all Americans were loaded.....or have i been watching Dallas too long......
Title: Re: Bronze Rooster Man
Post by: ACStanley on August 25, 2012, 03:34:23 PM
Looking back and forth at these two pictures, they are certainly different... The comb is sculpted differently... and there may be more differences if the first photo were brighter...
Title: Re: Bronze Rooster Man
Post by: any88 on August 25, 2012, 04:04:02 PM
u need a camera with the flash
Title: Re: Bronze Rooster Man
Post by: bigwull on August 25, 2012, 04:08:00 PM
More than one piece of the Rooster..and in order for each piece to retain its uniqueness, the sculptor has changed them ever so slightly......
Title: Re: Bronze Rooster Man
Post by: ACStanley on August 25, 2012, 04:12:38 PM
This guy is pretty amazing though... I love this sculpture! http://www.marybethllorens.com/fieldofflowers/flowers11.html
Title: Re: Bronze Rooster Man
Post by: mart on August 25, 2012, 06:59:38 PM
as far as this sculpture,, are you buying to keep or as an investment ?? if as an investment check his sales record and then see if anything has increased in value over the last 10m years or so !!  if the selling price hasn`t appreciated at least a little,, i wouldn`t buy for that reason !! and to tell the truth, i wouldn`t buy it if it did !! 
Title: Re: Bronze Rooster Man
Post by: bigwull on August 25, 2012, 07:10:01 PM
I buy if I like something...but never think of it as an investment.....
Title: Re: Bronze Rooster Man
Post by: mart on August 25, 2012, 07:24:35 PM
well if you spend $12 g on something, it would be good,, if you had to sell it in the future,, to know you would not lose money !! that would be like dealing in the cattle market,, buy high,, sell low !!  not a good thing!!  you lose your skivvies like that !!
Title: Re: Bronze Rooster Man
Post by: greenacres on August 25, 2012, 09:30:53 PM
Lol!
Title: Re: Bronze Rooster Man
Post by: ACStanley on August 25, 2012, 11:46:53 PM
Oh My Gosh! Can we please stop talking about cattle! I had enough of that in my thermos thread! =)
Title: Re: Bronze Rooster Man
Post by: msghopper1924 on August 26, 2012, 06:38:59 AM
We saw Rooster Man at a crowded estate sale, and would have loved to get a photo! Unfortunately, we had to use the photo from the advertisement. The woman that puts on the estate sale called us last night, as today is "1/2 price" day. She said that the owners would not go 1/2 price on Rooster Man...but might be willing to "deal" with us. If only we were RICH! And then there is the fact that I love it, and Kevin doesn't!  :-\ If wishes were horses, beggars would ride!
Title: Re: Bronze Rooster Man
Post by: bigwull on August 26, 2012, 07:01:57 AM
well if you spend $12 g on something, it would be good,, if you had to sell it in the future,, to know you would not lose money !! that would be like dealing in the cattle market,, buy high,, sell low !!  not a good thing!!  you lose your skivvies like that !!
Thats the way a Dealer would think,but for a private individual...they buy because they like it..but if i had $12G,s to spend on one item,then you,d better believe that it would be,because i could afford to, and not because,i,d be worrying..is it going to lose money....
Title: Re: Bronze Rooster Man
Post by: ghopper1924 on August 26, 2012, 07:12:06 AM
Good points, both of you. If you're putting that much cash out for a sculpture, you don't want to think of losing money, but as with all antiques I won't buy unless the love is there. As we've seen in the past 5 years, the market can always go south, along with your retirement dollars. At least you want to love the items before you sell for a loss  :D

As a sidebar, we do know that, even at 12K, the present owners would lose money on the sale.

The problem is, we cannot find any sale prices on anything by this sculptor, so there's no information on how his sales have been tracking, at least that we can find.
Title: Re: Bronze Rooster Man
Post by: bigwull on August 26, 2012, 07:29:55 AM
My Retirement Pension Pot....went down the tubes when Lloyds Bank went pear shaped...up until the collapse of the banks here in UK,..i,d paid in £22,000....then boom...banks bust.....i got back £9,000....in hindsight,my money would have been safer buried in a pot in the garden.....its the same with Antiques and Collectables...they go up...and they go down....just like my pension pot :'(
Title: Re: Bronze Rooster Man
Post by: ghopper1924 on August 26, 2012, 05:58:06 PM
We went back to the sale today. Rooster Man was discounted to $10K.  Now, is that a good deal?? ;)

Seriously, we were sad to see him not sell (to us), but we just couldn't afford it. I hope we don't find out that $10K was a steal after all!! ;)
Title: Re: Bronze Rooster Man
Post by: mart on August 26, 2012, 06:54:20 PM
do you know the accredited name of the sculpture??
Title: Re: Bronze Rooster Man
Post by: bigwull on August 26, 2012, 09:41:22 PM
When I was in Switzerland a couple of years ago i visited this place...you,ll either love or hate what this guy does...and sells,...for me..he is the dogs danglers

http://shop.hrgigermuseum.com/shop/USER_ARTIKEL_HANDLING_AUFRUF.php?darstellen=1&Kategorie_ID=63&PEPPERSESS=a5dfb3dd58a7a756e92f422e082c2117&kat_last=63&kat_aktiv=63
Title: Re: Bronze Rooster Man
Post by: ghopper1924 on August 27, 2012, 05:40:08 AM
Oh yeah, big Giger fan here. I had the old 'Necronomicon' in large folio form until it fell apart (bad binding).
Title: Re: Bronze Rooster Man
Post by: bigwull on August 27, 2012, 05:53:51 AM
I have been to his museum twice...its a part of his house...well its not a house its a Chateau....Chateau St.Germain, in Gruyere....when i went there for the first time..i did,nt know that he had done all the artwork for Dune...in the main hall of the museum..there is a Harkonnen Dining room table with 8 chairs...its awesome,....its jet black and the surface of the table has a mirror finish..and if you stare into it...you get the feeling of being pulled into it....when it happened to be...I jumped with fright!!..there are also Giger Bars....i have been in the one in Gruyere  and also the one in Chur..see link

http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&gs_nf=1&cp=13&gs_id=k1&xhr=t&q=HR+Giger+Bars&pf=p&sclient=psy-ab&oq=HR+Giger+Bars&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=4d59194e7a14bae1&biw=1024&bih=629