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Title: Original Watercolor in frame
Post by: debodun on September 05, 2012, 05:47:06 AM
A "regular" customer that come to my garage sales keeps asking me to sell her this watercolor painting (she's one of those that isn't satisfied to just look at the items out for sale, she wants to see what inside the house). The outer dimensions of the wooden frame are 14.5 x 12.5". I hadn't even thought of selling it until she pestered me about it. I have no idea of it's value. The painting is entitled "Cove on Green River", but I can't find it or anything about this artist on the Internet. She is only interested in it because of the provenance - on the back is written where and when it was purchased and by whom. The next time she stops, what would be a reasonable price to quote to her?
Title: Re: Original Watercolor in frame
Post by: mart on September 05, 2012, 07:50:11 AM
does the sig. say Chas A Holbert or chas a holbert jr. ?   jr. is an artist/cartoonist but found no where he did anything as mild as this one !! perhaps something on the back will help but cant read it !!
Title: Re: Original Watercolor in frame
Post by: bigwull on September 05, 2012, 07:58:26 AM
Next time she comes in...just say to her..."make me an offer I can,t refuse"....
Title: Re: Original Watercolor in frame
Post by: debodun on September 05, 2012, 08:03:36 AM
The sig looks like "Chas A Hulbert"
Title: Re: Original Watercolor in frame
Post by: bigwull on September 05, 2012, 08:12:09 AM
am i on the right track...see link


http://www.askart.com/askart/h/charles_allen_hulbert/charles_allen_hulbert.aspx
Title: Re: Original Watercolor in frame
Post by: debodun on September 05, 2012, 08:15:17 AM
Good start, but it doesn't have any info on the value of his art.
Title: Re: Original Watercolor in frame
Post by: bigwull on September 05, 2012, 08:32:40 AM
if you register on the site you will then be able to access the sale prices
Title: Re: Original Watercolor in frame
Post by: KevinM on September 05, 2012, 08:41:33 AM
If it's Charles Allen Hulbert then it may be in the range of $200 - $575  although these are for oil paintings... see link below...

Kevin

http://www.findartinfo.com/search/listprices.asp?keyword=127890&name=Charles-Allen-Hulbert
Title: Re: Original Watercolor in frame
Post by: debodun on September 05, 2012, 10:02:28 AM
Thanks for the auction link
Title: Re: Original Watercolor in frame
Post by: sapphire on September 05, 2012, 04:23:49 PM
A bit more for you ...........

This 8 x 10 oil on studio board sold for $350 in 2007 (est. sale $400-600)

Title: Re: Original Watercolor in frame
Post by: bigwull on September 05, 2012, 04:43:54 PM
These signatures are different...would the artist do this as a variant...chas...or just C
Title: Re: Original Watercolor in frame
Post by: sapphire on September 05, 2012, 04:54:42 PM
I have seen artists 'change' their signature.....using abbreviations. Could just be a progression from one stage of their career to the next. The 'tail' of the 't' at the end of Hulbert pretty well nails it for me along with the similar 'A' plus the fact that the artist appears to be left handed (or like me, right handed but writes ass backwards) ;)
Title: Re: Original Watercolor in frame
Post by: bigwull on September 05, 2012, 05:48:56 PM
I have seen artists 'change' their signature.....using abbreviations. Could just be a progression from one stage of their career to the next. The 'tail' of the 't' at the end of Hulbert pretty well nails it for me along with the similar 'A' plus the fact that the artist appears to be left handed (or like me, right handed but writes ass backwards) ;)
ass backwards mmm,....you must find walking a tad difficult!... :D.
Title: Re: Original Watercolor in frame
Post by: mart on September 05, 2012, 06:44:53 PM
style and sig. is close enough i would give it a "yes" !!
Title: Re: Original Watercolor in frame
Post by: sapphire on September 05, 2012, 06:56:16 PM
Well, we've had Chas. A and C.A, now we have Charles Allen !  Same old Hulbert though ;)
Title: Re: Original Watercolor in frame
Post by: mart on September 05, 2012, 07:56:20 PM
but that T is consistant in all of them !!   
Title: Re: Original Watercolor in frame
Post by: sapphire on September 05, 2012, 09:14:03 PM
but that T is consistant in all of them !!   

I'd say that's confirmation enough  ;)
Title: Re: Original Watercolor in frame
Post by: debodun on September 06, 2012, 08:18:20 AM
Maybe it depends on what the media is - watercolor or oil.
Title: Re: Original Watercolor in frame
Post by: mart on September 06, 2012, 08:26:31 AM
not necessarily !! most of the value would be in his appeal to buyers and to some degree his evolution as an artist !!  and you have to take into account the market today which is not very good !!  for every one successful artist,, there are a hundred that are not !!  i would say that for your painting, in todays market, and at that size,,$200. would be a good price !!
Title: Re: Original Watercolor in frame
Post by: debodun on September 06, 2012, 12:18:13 PM
Thanks for the appraisal, mart!
Title: Re: Original Watercolor in frame
Post by: mart on September 06, 2012, 01:12:47 PM
not an appraisal,, just an opinion !!  see what others say too !!