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Title: A. Rodin Gates of Hell
Post by: greenacres on October 12, 2012, 08:59:50 PM
I live in Philadelphia almost my whole life, but today was the first time I went to the Rodin Museum. We are having our family reunion weekend. The family comes in from all over the country. My husband's cousin wanted to go to the museum. It's amazing! The bronzes are like nothing you've ever seen! This picture doesn't do justice to the "Gates of Hell"!
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Post by: greenacres on October 12, 2012, 09:09:59 PM
Each bronze is in the "Gates of Hell"
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Post by: ghopper1924 on October 12, 2012, 09:14:35 PM
Incredible! I can't imagine that there's a sculptor alive who could even come close to that artistry!! :o
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Post by: greenacres on October 12, 2012, 09:15:16 PM
Look at the patina!
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Post by: greenacres on October 12, 2012, 09:17:57 PM
I agree! The toes look like real toes and each part of their anatony is so perfect that people thought he moled them, so from then on he put an inperfection in all his work.
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Post by: ghopper1924 on October 12, 2012, 09:24:09 PM
That patina just makes that sculpture group look all the better for those decades outside!
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Post by: greenacres on October 12, 2012, 09:26:12 PM
I wanted to take more pictures, but the battery on my phone was dying. Boo Hoo! :(
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Post by: bigwull on October 12, 2012, 10:07:39 PM
Incredible! I can't imagine that there's a sculptor alive who could even come close to that artistry!! :o
You,re right....most of the good sculptors popped their clogs years ago....my favourite sculpture is ..this one by Cellini....which was made in the 16th century....
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Post by: talesofthesevenseas on October 13, 2012, 12:12:57 AM
We have one of Rodin's "Gates of Hell" here in California too, at Stanford University. (They made more than one casting!) It is one of my all time favorite pieces of sculpture. If you visit the Rodin Collection, you can then visit the gift shop and buy an "I've been to the Gates of Hell" T-shirt! I've been meaning to get myself one of those!

http://museum.stanford.edu/view/rodin.html (http://museum.stanford.edu/view/rodin.html)

(http://museum.stanford.edu/images/collection/rodin__1985_86.jpg)
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Post by: greenacres on October 13, 2012, 08:07:22 AM
I was going to buy one, but I really wanted to buy a bronze of Eve. It wasn't to badly priced.
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Post by: Rauville on October 13, 2012, 08:13:23 AM
Another place to enjoy Rodin is at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota.
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Post by: greenacres on October 13, 2012, 09:21:18 AM
This must be a lost art, or there isn't as must talent today. If you look at Cellini and Rodin there is nothing like it today. I question why. Is it the materials? Is it that it's not studied? I wonder if these artists would have liked the modern art of today. I think not.  ;D
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Post by: wendy177 on October 13, 2012, 04:41:41 PM
Agree greenacres!! Today everyone wants to buy everything from Walmart, most art today is junk, furniture today is junk,  I think it takes many years of study and all of the great masters of this art to study from are dead and gone like you said!! So sad as it is beautiful!!  Many of the great glass artist from long ago took much of their glass making secrets to the grave with them, even apprentices where not privy to all techniques and methods!!
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Post by: ghopper1924 on October 13, 2012, 06:19:08 PM
It's all about disposable culture, planned obsolesence, and the bastardization of taste through TV. But that's another subject... ::)
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Post by: cogar on October 14, 2012, 04:36:18 AM
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This must be a lost art, or there isn't as must talent today.

There is plenty of potential talent out there nowdays ..... but it mostly falls under the heading of "Starving Artists".

Times have changed and one can blame it on our government and its "wealth redistribution" programs that requires horrendous taxation of the "producers" in our society .... which negates their desire or ability to be "mentors" to any potentially great artists being able to persue their "dreams" of creating great works of art.

Government funded Art Schools are not the same as "mentor" funded Art Studios. The former you do what you are told, .... the latter you do your own creative thingy.
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Post by: bigwull on October 14, 2012, 04:48:50 AM
Another reason why these spectacular sculptures are not being made..may be  because of the lack of the raw materials...as China is the main importer...of all Non-Ferrous scrap metal....this is why the price of copper etc is so high....
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Post by: greenacres on October 14, 2012, 08:09:53 AM
It's ashame. What will be the legacy of our children!
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Post by: bigwull on October 14, 2012, 05:46:00 PM
Here you are G,acre..an alternative Rodin....The Thinker....would look great on a hall table, solid bronze 7ilb in weight, 9.1/2in high....£76 on ebay...
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Post by: greenacres on October 14, 2012, 06:00:58 PM
He's cute! I could find a place for him, lol
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Post by: bigwull on October 14, 2012, 07:45:43 PM
He's cute! I could find a place for him, lol
Here,s another one...this seller sells loads of bronzes...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SKELETON-THINKER-PURE-BRONZE-SIGNED-STATUE-NO-RESERVE-/280994632034?_trksid=p4340.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D11%26meid%3D2747609444493347926%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D1005%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D290782697131%26
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Post by: greenacres on October 14, 2012, 07:56:51 PM
I'll keep an eye on it. ;)
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Post by: ghopper1924 on October 14, 2012, 08:19:29 PM
Here you are G,acre..an alternative Rodin....The Thinker....would look great on a hall table, solid bronze 7ilb in weight, 9.1/2in high....£76 on ebay...

Actually I kind of like it!

In an era of "art is what I say it is," there is a dearth of ability and technique, the kind that made "The Gates of Hell." Our skeletal friend notwithstanding, I would guess that there is simply nobody that is capable of creating works of that caliber anymore.
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Post by: ayashe on October 14, 2012, 09:18:30 PM
Beautiful! I saw a lot of Rodin's work at LACMA about 15 years ago. These pics bring it all back. One of my fav artists. I have pics somewhere of my visit, will have to dig them out. Thanks for posting!
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Post by: greenacres on October 14, 2012, 09:28:43 PM
I wonder if they actually teach this technique?
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Post by: sapphire on October 14, 2012, 10:05:36 PM
Though not a bronze, this memorial tribute I had the privilege of seeing while visiting Saint Peter's church in Bermuda was beautiful beyond description. The pictures don't do it justice, it actually radiates with warmth and detail. These are all pieces of true art we will sadly never have the opportunity to see recreated in our day or the future.


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Post by: sapphire on October 14, 2012, 10:10:07 PM
Even the written word is a work of art........as seen by the message below the memorial


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Post by: KC on October 14, 2012, 10:31:48 PM
Each era has it's greats....there will be some.  Art is cyclic....there will be great sculptors again....
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Post by: bigwull on October 15, 2012, 05:08:52 AM
this seller in the UK,...has some nice pieces....


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SUBSTANTIAL-SIGNED-ABSTRACT-HOTCAST-BRONZE-BULL-STATUE-/280996556038?pt=UK_Collectables_AnimalCollectables_SM&hash=item416cb32d06
Title: Re: A. Rodin Gates of Hell
Post by: greenacres on October 15, 2012, 07:55:07 AM
Like this too, but can't compare the talent.