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Title: I am new to this forum.
Post by: jeffrotaylo on November 05, 2012, 10:42:00 AM
Hi! My name is Jeff and I have an item I am trying to get some info on. First and foremost I'm trying to find out what the heck it is. Any info would greatly be appreciated.
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Post by: bigwull on November 05, 2012, 11:09:09 AM
It looks like  a ladle of some sort,possible for measuring grain...or whatever....but I really don,t have a clue...but i have no doubt,there will be an "expert"...along shortly who will know.... :D
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Post by: jeffrotaylo on November 05, 2012, 12:03:10 PM
I was thinking it was a melting pot for lead shot. Or for measuring gunpowder.
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Post by: KC on November 05, 2012, 01:17:39 PM
Measurements and weight of item?
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Post by: mart on November 05, 2012, 01:25:02 PM
Could we get a close up of the backside ?? And need to know how did you come by this item, your location, and its size !! Approx how much dry measure does it hold ?? Easy way to figure that is to use a measuring cup, 1/4 or 1/3 C. ect and see if its more or less than these !! Then weigh the correct amount !!   Sometimes if the weights come up even could be a seed measure !!  I buy most of mine in either 1/4 or 1/2 lb packages,, a few are in ounces !!  Also look at it and see if a measure amount is written anywhere,, May be worn off though !!
Title: Re: I am new to this forum.
Post by: jeffrotaylo on November 05, 2012, 03:47:01 PM
There are no markings on the back. The picture of the can of beer should give you a size comparison...lol. It was given to a friend of mine in a box full of items donated to her consignment shop.
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Post by: frogpatch on November 05, 2012, 04:49:09 PM
Wow. Thanks Mart. That thing is tiny. I thought from the first pic it was big. I am stumped. I would guess it was for pouring a small amount of  powder as in filling a shotgun shell.
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Post by: bigwull on November 05, 2012, 04:52:14 PM
is,nt it amazing how easily we can be fooled by a picture,of an item,when there is no background...now this "ladle"looks like it belongs to a childs doll,
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Post by: jeffrotaylo on November 05, 2012, 05:40:19 PM
 I found out what it is. It is a personal cigar ashtray that came with a kit that was distributed by Old King Cole Cigars in the 1920's.

Title: Re: I am new to this forum.
Post by: mart on November 05, 2012, 06:25:20 PM
Well I `ll be darned !!  Wouldn`t have guessed that !!  How did you find out ?? I was at Dr`s all afternoon so didn`t have time to look anywhere !!
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Post by: jeffrotaylo on November 05, 2012, 06:32:45 PM
Now I'm being told that is not what it is so now I'm stumped.
HELP!! lol

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Post by: greenacres on November 05, 2012, 07:17:28 PM
Funny I thought it was a cigar ashtray, but I would have been guessing. Although now that the size is so small I really don't know. Could you rest a spoon on it?
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Post by: bigwull on November 06, 2012, 07:29:31 AM
Well, I,d be more inclined to believe it is a travelling ashtray....than anything else...and whoever told you it was,nt....well,until they come up with cast iron proof as to what they think it is...then ...A Travelling Ashtray is what it is.... ;D
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Post by: mart on November 06, 2012, 08:25:08 AM
Well, I can`t tie it in  with any brand of cigar,,I looked up a bunch of personal cigar ashtrays of the 20`s and found it very similar to many and almost identical to one made by Tiffany,, except Tiffany made it from sterling and this is not !!
So I would believe that it is a personal ashtray from that approx period !!  No record I found that Old King Cole ever made one !!
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Post by: jeffrotaylo on November 06, 2012, 09:09:39 AM
Hey Mart! I do appreciate your help! I would love to find out the value of this item. It is made of copper and has an elaborate etching pattern.
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Post by: mart on November 06, 2012, 10:43:12 AM
Can you get a close pic of the etchings ??  Perhaps that will give us a clue to its maker !!
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Post by: rockandrollrods on November 09, 2012, 12:06:55 AM
I don't know enough about muskets, but it almost looks like a dish to melt the lead. That would explain the guide that doubles as a handle.
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Post by: cogar on November 09, 2012, 06:07:13 AM
Quote
well,until they come up with cast iron proof as to what they think it is...then ...A Travelling Ashtray is what it is....


How's this for "cast iron proof" that it is an ashtray? ;D ;D ;D

(http://ewkauctions.0catch.com/IncImages/Griswold79Ashtray1.jpg)

A Griswold '00' skillet.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Griswold-Double-Aught-Zero-00-Black-Cast-Iron-Ashtray-Skillet-Mini-Fry-Pan-570-/360424049773 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Griswold-Double-Aught-Zero-00-Black-Cast-Iron-Ashtray-Skillet-Mini-Fry-Pan-570-/360424049773)

And ps, I have a 'brass' one.
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Post by: bigwull on November 09, 2012, 07:14:20 AM
what more can i say.....don,t praise me......... ;D ;D ;D...now i,m off to an auction....of fine antiques...and other goods that nobody wants..... ;D
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Post by: KC on November 09, 2012, 08:37:40 AM
Don't know why i missed this one...but it is definitely an ashtray.  AKA personal or traveling ashtray.

Finger/ring style handle on this one to hold it securely while standing or on lap.
Seems this is the second one on here within the week! (The other one being lidded)

(http://i.tfcdn.com/img2/-L3Dul4AY2o-wc6QlpNfnlpUHJ-YlxKfnplWUsyQUVJSYKWvX5BYVJKXWpSZm5ieqpeUmpyfm6oHJPTBAsWpRWWpRfrFxvqWlibmRibmZha6hgYGYGyqa2yka2oJAA**/fyVMtP8A) (http://i.tfcdn.com/img2/u9-eg14ADcqxDkAwEABQ_I-egcUmYmPrLue0p0I1baXf4X8NTG95xfPmmT6upHyY0a4zGx1DtsXoWoCUkqB7QUsedfyLoOsEcyKrAGQY_Q_BgZ4V9H0ny3oaZDeWdVOJ3fEH/fyVMtP8A)

This one even has a fold out cigarette rest so it folds neatly and fits into a petite purse!  LOL
(http://img3.etsystatic.com/000/0/6245504/il_570xN.268985871.jpg)
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Post by: rockandrollrods on November 09, 2012, 01:16:59 PM
I'm going to change my answer here. Looks like an ashtray to me. ;)
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Post by: greenacres on November 09, 2012, 01:53:40 PM
 ;D
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Post by: bigwull on November 09, 2012, 03:53:33 PM
And another one bites the dust...and i too will amend my post...don,t praise me...praise KC....who,s not just a pretty face.... ;D