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Title: old tool
Post by: rusty2010 on November 07, 2012, 07:21:20 AM
Does anyone know what this is. Thanks
Title: Re: old tool
Post by: mart on November 07, 2012, 12:06:57 PM
I have no clue but some of the guys will know !!  Reminds me of an old rivet tool of some type !!  Any history with this ??  What area are you in ?? Did you look for a patent number ??
Title: Re: old tool
Post by: KC on November 07, 2012, 05:16:41 PM
My first impression is a punch...but rivet would work as well.  Hard to tell by the pic.

Any markings on it at all?  Can you take a pic with the handle in the down position?  Thanks!
Title: Re: old tool
Post by: greenacres on November 07, 2012, 05:54:36 PM
Yes, it definitely looks like a rivet machine. We used one in my grandfather's mfg. company.
Title: Re: old tool
Post by: cogar on November 08, 2012, 06:32:08 AM
Not a "rivet" press .... but looks to be a "hole" punch ..... or a "pin" driver/inserter (it appears to have a "depth" stop).

A "rivet" press has to have a solid base, either flat, concave or convex, to insure a "clinching" of the rivet.
Title: Re: old tool
Post by: KC on November 08, 2012, 11:23:26 AM
Exactly what I thought cogar!  (Unless a platform is missing so that it could be used for a rivet!)
Title: Re: old tool
Post by: bigwull on November 08, 2012, 11:32:46 PM
i,ve got an "old tool" as well....but it looks a lot different........ ::)
Title: Re: old tool
Post by: ghopper1924 on November 09, 2012, 05:39:16 AM
Keep it clean there Wullie! (Avrill will thank you)

Remember, this forum is rated "g."
Title: Re: old tool
Post by: bigwull on November 09, 2012, 07:03:31 AM
Being of Greek Orthodox faith..and an ex Alter Boy...."that" ..tool never entered my mind.....but its obviously in yours...... ;D ;D
Title: Re: old tool
Post by: KC on November 09, 2012, 08:55:49 AM
Yeah...I buy that from you just like I buy that you don't have an accent Wullie!

You have been scolded!

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Title: Re: old tool
Post by: bigwull on November 09, 2012, 01:02:16 PM
Coming from you KC....i,ll take it the way i always do...with a smile on my face..as for an accent..among my own kind i do...when somewhere else...i don,t.....because if i were to speak as i normally do.....nobody would understand a word i was saying..... ;D
Title: Re: old tool
Post by: JAT on December 01, 2012, 10:29:45 AM
Note from my husband, a collector of old tools:  A platform/table is missing.  Additionally this item has and is still used by blacksmiths rather than the conventional anvil and hammer... just depends upon their preference, what s/he has available at the time, or if the blacksmith runs into a problem and needs an additional tool; from my horseback riding years I do recall seeing a much smaller version in the blacksmith's van and/or trailer... many tools, many uses.

Exactly what I thought cogar!  (Unless a platform is missing so that it could be used for a rivet!)

Title: Re: old tool
Post by: KC on December 01, 2012, 05:12:29 PM
:)  Thanks for the update!
Title: Re: old tool
Post by: cogar on December 02, 2012, 04:14:29 AM
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Additionally this item has and is still used by blacksmiths


Then I'm thinking it is a "hole punch" for metal and would explain the long "shaft" with the large "ball" at the top for hitting with a hammer.
Title: Re: old tool
Post by: JAT on December 02, 2012, 09:37:22 AM
Explanation from my husband... In general terms it is a hole punch, however, this tool is a multifunctional tool such as punching holes, riveting, to press bearings in place, blacksmithing, et cetera.  In order for this tool to function however one would need the plate that is missing (see top photo... if you look at the shorter metal "shaft" located pretty much in the middle of the tool - next to that you can see where a plate would be attached to it, and, where it would be screwed in to hold it in place).  The "ball" at the top is actually a weight which would not be used for hitting with a hammer. 
Title: Re: old tool
Post by: JAT on December 02, 2012, 01:21:49 PM
Addendum:  I forgot to ask/mention (sorry) - If the owner of this piece is able to look over the top of the weight of this tool and there is a hole in it, additional weights can be added. 
Title: Re: old tool
Post by: cogar on December 02, 2012, 02:06:29 PM
 
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The "ball" at the top is actually a weight which would not be used for hitting with a hammer. 


With that heavy "return" spring on the shaft I really don't think that "weight" would have much affect on the way it functions.
Title: Re: old tool
Post by: mart on December 02, 2012, 02:25:33 PM
What is the name of the tool ?? Might help us learn a bit !!
Title: Re: old tool
Post by: JAT on December 02, 2012, 02:35:47 PM
Weight does have an affect on the way it functions having to do with what one is wishing to accomplish, i.e., depth and/or weight of metal, etc.  The spring does give resistance but also brings the bar back to its neutral position and with the size of the top of the bar it does appear that more weight can be added which has been seen on these tools.  Unfortunately we at the moment do not know if there is a hole at the top in order to add additional weights on it or not.  Some do, some don't.

With that heavy "return" spring on the shaft I really don't think that "weight" would have much affect on the way it functions.
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Title: Re: old tool
Post by: cogar on December 03, 2012, 04:50:15 AM
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Weight does have an affect on the way it functions having to do with what one is wishing to accomplish, i.e., depth and/or weight of metal, etc.  The spring does give resistance but also brings the bar back to its neutral position ...

Well now, if you say-so, JAT, that's fine with me.

But now iffen I had designed that tool  ..... I would have left the "weight" off the top of the shaft ....... and used a smaller spring to "return the bar back to its neutral position".

"A penny saved (in manufacturing cost) is a penny earned".