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Title: Lot of antiques, chairs, chandeliers etc.
Post by: Hans K. on November 09, 2012, 12:45:32 PM
Hello guys,

this is my first post on the forum.
I come from Hungary and my family have a mansion which we are selling. The potencial buyer doesn't need the furnitures so I decided to show the better pieces here, I am thinking of selling some of them later.

Unfortunately I can't give you too much information at the moment about the pieces, as soon as I will have more info about the date etc. will let you know.

Title: Re: Lot of antiques, chairs, chandeliers etc.
Post by: Hans K. on November 09, 2012, 12:55:27 PM
The first one is in my opinion a very nice chandelier, it was made around 1720 if I well know, it has been restored (gilted) some years ago.
Title: Re: Lot of antiques, chairs, chandeliers etc.
Post by: Hans K. on November 09, 2012, 12:58:54 PM
If I well know these furnitures are called as empire style?
Title: Re: Lot of antiques, chairs, chandeliers etc.
Post by: Hans K. on November 09, 2012, 01:03:26 PM
I think most of the furnitures were made in the baroque era.
Here are some more chairs and chandelier.
Title: Re: Lot of antiques, chairs, chandeliers etc.
Post by: greenacres on November 09, 2012, 01:58:53 PM
The chandelier is beautiful.
Title: Re: Lot of antiques, chairs, chandeliers etc.
Post by: greenacres on November 09, 2012, 02:05:24 PM
Are there any markings on the furniture at all? Names etc. Is the wood "Flamed Mahogany"? I more question ;D Is it french?
Title: Re: Lot of antiques, chairs, chandeliers etc.
Post by: bigwull on November 09, 2012, 02:32:40 PM
The black pieces look to be Ebonized....if you can give us some pics of the rear,of the large piece..and some pics of the drawer sides....in order that we can determine...which way the dovetails have been cut....and to see what wood they are made of...
Title: Re: Lot of antiques, chairs, chandeliers etc.
Post by: greenacres on November 09, 2012, 02:40:45 PM
http://www.bonninashley.com/chests-cabinets/antique-napoleon-iii-ebonized-cabinet-with-boule/

I think this is your furniture. Beautiful pieces.
Title: Re: Lot of antiques, chairs, chandeliers etc.
Post by: Hans K. on November 09, 2012, 02:52:11 PM
Hello,

thank you very much for your comments, I will try to make new photos, there are much items, I just don't find the pictures yet.

Yes, its exactly that ebonized Napoleon, I have a book from that will try to scan it later.
The price I found very high, we bought them for 2000 $/piece.

I don't know about the markings will check all of them.

Do you have any idea how much the first chandelier would worth?

Kind Regards,
Hans


Title: Re: Lot of antiques, chairs, chandeliers etc.
Post by: bigwull on November 09, 2012, 03:18:58 PM
http://www.bonninashley.com/chests-cabinets/antique-napoleon-iii-ebonized-cabinet-with-boule/

I think this is your furniture. Beautiful pieces.
now that Mac Reds are plentiful over here...you can have a box of them G,acre....you,re not just a pretty face are you...good find....
Title: Re: Lot of antiques, chairs, chandeliers etc.
Post by: greenacres on November 09, 2012, 03:20:23 PM
Thanks, BigWullie ;) I try.
Title: Re: Lot of antiques, chairs, chandeliers etc.
Post by: bigwull on November 09, 2012, 03:21:36 PM
Hello,

thank you very much for your comments, I will try to make new photos, there are much items, I just don't find the pictures yet.

Yes, its exactly that ebonized Napoleon, I have a book from that will try to scan it later.
The price I found very high, we bought them for 2000 $/piece.

I don't know about the markings will check all of them.

Do you have any idea how much the first chandelier would worth?

Kind Regards,
Hans



now that G,acre has found your piece, i don,t think we need to see anymore....she has nailed it....
Title: Re: Lot of antiques, chairs, chandeliers etc.
Post by: greenacres on November 09, 2012, 03:24:18 PM
I found your settee for $2,935.00. For some reason it won't let me cut and paste. I'll check for the chandelier.
Title: Re: Lot of antiques, chairs, chandeliers etc.
Post by: bigwull on November 09, 2012, 03:30:34 PM
I found your settee for $2,935.00. For some reason it won't let me cut and paste. I'll check for the chandelier.
sometimes i,ve had this happen to me..i think its got something to do with copy write
Title: Re: Lot of antiques, chairs, chandeliers etc.
Post by: Hans K. on November 09, 2012, 04:19:14 PM
Thank you very much for your help greenacres!
I will post some more pictures tomorrow.



 
Title: Re: Lot of antiques, chairs, chandeliers etc.
Post by: greenacres on November 09, 2012, 04:39:59 PM
Bigwull, your probably right. Still looking up that chandelier. Think it's pretty pricey!
Title: Re: Lot of antiques, chairs, chandeliers etc.
Post by: mart on November 09, 2012, 08:18:45 PM
When was the first chandelier wired for electricity ?? 
Title: Re: Lot of antiques, chairs, chandeliers etc.
Post by: Hans K. on November 10, 2012, 04:14:02 AM
When was the first chandelier wired for electricity ?? 

Hello Mart,

well I don't know when was it first wired as we bought the mansion 7 years ago and the chandelier was with it already wired.

Title: Re: Lot of antiques, chairs, chandeliers etc.
Post by: ghopper1924 on November 10, 2012, 04:53:59 AM
How old is your house?

Your furniture pieces are not baroque, but rococo or renaissance revival, mid 19th century.
Title: Re: Lot of antiques, chairs, chandeliers etc.
Post by: Hans K. on November 10, 2012, 05:45:49 AM
Hello,

well the furnitures were not in the house, we bought them, only the chandeliers are belonged to it. By the way, the chandelier is made by wrought iron.

About the house:
It was built in 1753, the current design was finished in 1820.

Here are some pictures about it:
Title: Re: Lot of antiques, chairs, chandeliers etc.
Post by: greenacres on November 10, 2012, 08:15:59 AM
Your house is very charming.
Title: Re: Lot of antiques, chairs, chandeliers etc.
Post by: greenacres on November 10, 2012, 08:19:01 AM
http://www.google.com/imgres?q=antique+french+chandelier&num=10&hl=en&tbo=d&biw=1600&bih=773&tbm=isch&tbnid=ix-69QGJw0TyJM:&imgrefurl=http://stores.shopcarefulpeach.com/-strse-Lighting/Categories.bok&docid=RP4ya3iLwSXOOM&imgurl=http://stores.shopcarefulpeach.com/catalog/Chandelier%252520Frosted_3.JPG&w=300&h=200&ei=1GGeUJaYD9HW0gHE84CADQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=808&vpy=283&dur=187&hovh=160&hovw=240&tx=178&ty=118&sig=112972505218245676006&page=1&tbnh=137&tbnw=214&start=0&ndsp=30&ved=1t:429,r:5,s:20,i:159

This looks loke the same company. Haven't found your exact chandelier yet.
Title: Re: Lot of antiques, chairs, chandeliers etc.
Post by: greenacres on November 10, 2012, 08:34:29 AM
I not sure, but I think it could be a Tole chandelier. I'm still checking.
Title: Re: Lot of antiques, chairs, chandeliers etc.
Post by: mart on November 10, 2012, 08:39:10 AM
Where are you located ??  Its a beautiful estate !!  First one reminds me of Christmas card pics !!
Title: Re: Lot of antiques, chairs, chandeliers etc.
Post by: ghopper1924 on November 10, 2012, 08:47:53 AM
I'm guessing from the member's name (Hans) that the estate is in Germany, Austria or Switzerland.

The chandelier may not have been wired for electricity until the mid 20th century. Was it candles before that? If so, it could date to the early 19th century or even the 18th, it's hard to tell from the photos.
Title: Re: Lot of antiques, chairs, chandeliers etc.
Post by: Hans K. on November 10, 2012, 08:48:31 AM
Hello Mart,

I am from Hungary, Vasegerszeg a smal village near the Austrian border.
Here is an older tender about it.
http://www.immobilien-hu.at/00000198640aab305/03c1989ec708d7681/03c1989f340e42f02/index.html
Title: Re: Lot of antiques, chairs, chandeliers etc.
Post by: Hans K. on November 10, 2012, 08:50:51 AM
Hello Ghopper,

I have asked and the date of the chandalier is 1780.
Title: Re: Lot of antiques, chairs, chandeliers etc.
Post by: mart on November 10, 2012, 08:53:50 AM
Its beautiful there !!
Title: Re: Lot of antiques, chairs, chandeliers etc.
Post by: KC on November 10, 2012, 11:07:30 AM
I really think that all of the Antique-Shop Forum Regulars need to go for a "hands-on" inspection of all items to help this poor individual out!  :/   After all, it is the least we could do!   LOLOL

My mouth has dropped open!  Thank you for sharing all the pics...it has helped me go on a mental holiday!!!! (Hush Wullie....I know you will say I am always on a mental holiday!)
Title: Re: Lot of antiques, chairs, chandeliers etc.
Post by: mart on November 10, 2012, 11:20:18 AM
I am with you KC !!  "Hands on" is the only way to do it !!  Think we could talk Hans into it ???
Title: Re: Lot of antiques, chairs, chandeliers etc.
Post by: bigwull on November 10, 2012, 11:58:17 AM
Well, if you get a cheap flight to Salzburg in Austria...then hire a car...you,ll only have 251.84 miles to drive, to get to Vasegerszeg,...or you could fly into Amsterdam...then take a tour of Germany ,Austria...then on to Vasegerszeg,....but that will mean 780.43 miles....there....b tw...the sz is pronounced like sh..."Vasegersheg".just thought i,d add that,to stop your tongue getting tied in knots.... :D
Title: Re: Lot of antiques, chairs, chandeliers etc.
Post by: KC on November 10, 2012, 12:13:35 PM
I'm in....
Title: Re: Lot of antiques, chairs, chandeliers etc.
Post by: ghopper1924 on November 10, 2012, 03:35:11 PM
I'm in....

Me too! :)

So...ZANG! on the chandelier. Candles it was!