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Antiques! => Antique Questions Forum => Topic started by: The-Warden on December 06, 2012, 06:45:37 AM
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Hello,
I'm new to the forum, I clean out estates and found this buckle, I have done a little research and found out it was made by (Turriet & Bardach of Austria 1852-1911) I cannot find another like it any where online and am trying to find a value, I collect militaria and want to use it to trade.
Thanks,
Kevin
(http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww220/KJV21/Picture096.jpg)
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Judging by the hue..of the metal..it looks like silverplate.over a copper base...a pic of the rear of the buckle...may tell us more...I,ve done some searching but..like you,have,nt found this buckle...but there are a few others from this maker...and from what i,ve seen the average selling price is in the region of $100/150....
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Hi Bigwull,
Here are some back and TM photos, yes I've seen some for that value, but I've also found some from this Co. valued in the 300-400 range, that's what messes me up.
Thanks,
Kevin
(http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww220/KJV21/Picture097.jpg)
(http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww220/KJV21/Picture098.jpg)
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Well its definitely silver plate over copper...as to value...if you pitch it somewhere in the middle to high of those prices...then i don,t think you will be far off the mark....and if it is maybe worth more..then prospective buyers will bid accordingly...if this were put to auction....with a suitable reserve in place...
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Hi Bigwull,
Thanks for the help, wish I could find another like it, just to check it out, I'm pretty sure it was made closer to the end of the Co. career 1911
Thanks again,
Kevin
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Where are you located ?? What makes you think its Turiet & Barbach !! All I have found on them lists their marks as T&B rather than T.B. as a single persons initials !!
I think your buckle could possibly be one of Thomas Bradbury`s early marks !! They used the shield and crown with the T.B. mark, later added the & S for "and Sons" !! They did a lot of Sheffield plate !! Silver over copper base !!
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Hi Mart,
well you can look here, it's in German, but make out what it has for mark T.B.
http://www.multimedium.eu/schmucksigniert1/turrietbardach/index.html (http://www.multimedium.eu/schmucksigniert1/turrietbardach/index.html)
or here
http://www.etsy.com/listing/107988838/vintage-1900s-to-1920-art-nouveau (http://www.etsy.com/listing/107988838/vintage-1900s-to-1920-art-nouveau)
or here at the bottom of page
http://www.jewelscollectingdust.com/austrohungarian.htm (http://www.jewelscollectingdust.com/austrohungarian.htm)
Regards,
Kevin
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Thomas Bradbury & Sons Used TB&S (in shield with crown), prior to that did use TB, but the shape of the cartouche WAS NOT like the one seen. TB was used with a mid point period between TB (not a period at after the T and at the line level) and even used TB.
The TB that I am familiar with (TB in a cartouche) which is what is on this one is noted as being the mark for Turriet & Bardach (or if you prefer, Turriet Und Bardach). :)
Beautiful buckle by the way.
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Hi KC,
Thanks for the verification on the T.B. that's what I've found up to now.
Regards,
Kevin
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May be right !! But all I found including one German site listed their marks as T&B !! And this buckle seemed a bit simple for their work,, greek key border, to me, would put this more around 1920 or after !! But I am not a jewelry person you know !!
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1920 would be way after art nouveau, more like deco by that time.
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Hi Mart,
if you look at the three sites I supplied, you'll see they also put the Mark at Turriet & Bardach, also I found another buckle they did in silver plate that was not so fancy and just straight lines, so I guess they did all different forms, also if it is Turriet & Bardach, it could not be later than 1911, I was told that's when the Company dissolved.
Thanks,
Kevin
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1920 would be way after art nouveau, more like deco by that time.
Right Ghopper, thats when the greek key design was mostly used,, during the deco period ! Nouveaux period was more feminine and flowing lines, florals ect !! Not to say this is not Nouveaux period as different countries had an earlier or later transition !! Guess I just see things different !!
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Fair enough....
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1920 would be way after art nouveau, more like deco by that time.
Right Ghopper, thats when the greek key design was mostly used,, during the deco period ! Nouveaux period was more feminine and flowing lines, florals ect !! Not to say this is not Nouveaux period as different countries had an earlier or later transition !! Guess I just see things different !!
you would do with them $1 cheaters....dig some bucks from out under your mattress..or from a crock that you might have buried in your backyard...and buy yourself a decent pair of specs...then you might see things differently....and. ..Oh..no X in Nouveau.... ;D
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I did do that didn`t I Wullie ??? Have no idea where my mind was,, but it wasn`t on spelling evidently !!
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Wullie is on a roll...! LOLOL