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Antiques! => Antique Questions Forum => Topic started by: valmont325 on December 26, 2012, 10:18:10 PM
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I have heard that 84 on a silver item means its Russian sterling silver ...84 grams. This is a shot "glass" that appears to be Crudely carved on...not actual stamp. But the detail of the design on the shot glass itself appears to be similar to those of Russian sterling silver shots. Any detail would be wonderful. Thanks.
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Need to see it upright so we can look at design too please !!
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Photo of Cup.
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http://reviews.ebay.com/Let-apos-s-Talk-Russian-Silver-Part-I-The-Silver-Standard?ugid=10000000013252418
Why do you think its silver when its brass color ?? Or is that just the pic that looks like it ?? The above should answer your questions about Russian silver !!
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It was just the lighting plus the photo was before i cleaned it. I used a white cloth and the cloth was black when i had finished. So i heard that is an indication of sterling. Plus the design is similar to those i have seen on other sterling silver shots. But now i have no idea what to think about the "84" based upon the link you sent me.
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It was just the lighting plus the photo was before i cleaned it. I used a white cloth and the cloth was black when i had finished. So i heard that is an indication of sterling. Plus the design is similar to those i have seen on other sterling silver shots. But now i have no idea what to think about the "84" based upon the link you sent me.
Actually the black cloth could just as easily be from tarnished brass.
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Well it's not brass i know that.
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Did you see what it came in? Maybe this can help narrow it down as to where its from.... i still think russian or german.
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Its not been disputed that it might be Russian...what is in dispute..is..."is it genuine "..and early indications are...it a piece of Junk....
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Google "Russian 84 engraved Vodka Cup". You will get more pics than you want!
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Well it's not a piece of junk or i wouldn't have bought it. Regardles of history or material i still love it. Just want to know more about it.
I just googled "Russian 84 engraved Vodka Cup" tons of similar looking ones but the bottoms are all stamped as where mine is engraved 84.
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Oh don,t get yer pantyhose in a twist.. ;D even the best of us has bought junk at one time or another...in fact I buy it, quite often...and have made a few bob out of these.."antiques" of the future... ;D
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I am sorry but if its just an 84 on the bottom without the other marks mentioned in the link I gave, then someone has scratched it in to fool the unsuspecting buyer !! And I do think from that color that its brass !!
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Well , as i said either way i love this item. I bought it not thinking it might be sterling but just thinking metal. Wasn't until i saw the 84 that i got curious. I paid next to nothing so not worried about what it is, was more of a curious thing.
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More often than nought, I find it extremely difficult...Not to turn the Key,...when i see it protruding from someone,s back.... ;D ;D....
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I would have probably bought it too just because its interesting !! I have a few of Wullies "junk" items !! LOL And as we always say,,if you love it,,keep it !!!
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I would have probably bought it too just because its interesting !! I have a few of Wullies "junk" items !! LOL And as we always say,,if you love it,,keep it !!!
..you forgot about eating yer Corn? ;D
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Having been to Russia many times, they use brass quite often for service ware items.
If you look at alot of their items for sale...it is evident they aren't silver and color...and yet they are marked/stamped with the proper markings as well. Buyer beware. Lotsa' opportunists out there! Always be wary of hand scratched "silvermarks" and "makers marks". Time will be your friend as you learn more and more about it. We have all been there!
However, there are people that want to collect even the brass ones! So enjoy! It is rather nice looking!
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A simple acid test for this "junk"....silver shot cup...is...drop it in some ascetic acid...if it turns black...then the silver content is very,very low.....miniscule in fact.....
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may this link will help you.
http://www.925-1000.com/Frussia.html
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we,ve already been here..the issue is not about the % of silver...its about the validity of the stamp..coupled with the fact that it looks brass coloured
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maybe this photo will show more "Silver" or "Grey" then brass color.
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Recommend you take it to a reputable jeweler to help you resolve it.
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Yeah might be the best option,lol.
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Recommend you take it to a reputable jeweler to help you resolve it.
Are,nt they all reputable?....
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Yeah might be the best option,lol.
if you do take it to a jeweller...you may have to pay a fee for his assessment,
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Well that last pic looks more like silver !! Thats why good quality pics are so important when asking our opinion on something !! We can only go by what we can see !!! I agree with KC !! Then come back and let us know what they say !!
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I could,nt agree more...looking back at your first pics,and then to this latest one.....If I did,nt know better...i,d have to say...they are are alike as Chalk & Cheese.....