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Antiques! => Antique Questions Forum => Topic started by: ktaylor310 on January 13, 2013, 02:28:22 PM
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Hi, I have scoured the internet & library looking for a similiar chandelier to help determine the age & value of the one in our home, but can't find one like it! Our home is 172 years old, and we were told the chandelier is "original" to the home. Since they had no indoor plumbing & cooked in one of the fireplaces, though, it is doubtful they had electric. There are no markings on the chandelier that I can find. The house is a greek revival in Western Kentucky. The gentleman that built the home died in 1892. His tombstone is embedded in the front porch!
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Would help if you could straighten your pics before posting them !! Hard to determine anything from these !! I think someone is pulling your leg on this chandelier !! But will wait for better pics !!
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Electricity..first came to Kentucky..in 1883....
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I am sorry. I took pictures with my iPad. They were fine, but rotate when uploading apparently. I have attached new pictures.
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When was it rewired ?? The wire running down the chain looks like a clear plastic coated wire !! And like Wullie said the light bulb was exibited in Louisville in 1883 so would have been much later before houses had electricity !! More likely after 1900 !! From the style could not have been used with other light sources like oil or candles !!
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No idea of when rewired. The house was passed through several family members and then the bank before we purchased. Sorry. The family added an addition to the house about 50 years ago, but they would have wired for electric before then. Truthfully, I do not like the chandelier, but am afraid to sell because I have no idea what it is worth. I guess if we take it down there could be markings inside the top lid.
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Not likely !! Light fixtures were not usually marked at all unless very high end type !! And I would not consider this in that catagory !! Can`t see the fixture close enough to tell how its made !! You may find a name on the electrical components but that has nothing to do with the fixture itself !! I think this one is quite a bit later than you thought it was !!
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You don,t like it....but you are afraid to sell it?.....from where i,m sitting...my advice is...get rid of the $ signs that are in your eyes,...after all...they did,nt cost you an arm or a leg....they,ll make a few $$...then someone else can get joy out of them....or you can take them down..lock them away in a cupboard...and hope that they,re worth more than they really are.....
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Ok, maybe I didn't say that well. I would like to sell, but have no clue... $25... $200?? I certainly am not looking for big dollars, I was just wondering about a ballpark figure. It is not even all about the money, it is about the character of the house. If I thought it was really, really old I would have a hard time taking it down just because! I guess you get a lot of people who are hoping they found a treasure in their home... that is not me.
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Give it a little time and let other members chime in with their opinion !! Hard to tell much with it attached to the ceiling !!
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There is a little bit..of the treasure seeker in everyone...now to your light fittings...they,ll fetch what they will...my own gut feeling is around £200.+..
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Thank you
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it's a celing lantern, and £200 is probably the limit. Loads of them on Ebay
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I would agree with that price !!
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I would say the $150 - $200 range would be right if in excellent shape/working condition.
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Part of the reason that you can't find another one like it is because there are two different light fixtures there. The one attached to the ceiling is a pan fixture from around the late teens into the 30's. (try google image - pan fixture)
It would have had round coloured lamps in each of the holders because there are no shade holders. It looks to me like someone took the centre piece out, this was usually a brass tassel & ran a wire down to put the other fixture through. I can't really say when the second one is from, I don't see that style here very often, I think it may have been a more US style of light. GG
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That is very interesting!! I will google.
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Agree with GG. It's an early 20th century pan fixture combined with a colonial revival one, probably mid 20th century. Usually, combining 2 things detracts from the value of both. I'd say you should get about $100 for it.
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Agree with GG. It's an early 20th century pan fixture combined with a colonial revival one, probably mid 20th century. Usually, combining 2 things detracts from the value of both. I'd say you should get about $100 for it.
I was thinking Colonial Revival, but wasn't sure. We don't get that style here much on the left coast of Canada. Thank you for clarifying that for me.
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That is to me a marriage of a flush fixture typical of the 1920s and a lantern which is still available from many different lighting companies today. The gold drip candlesticks were popular in the 1970s and earlier and are still available. The two pieces were never made to be together in my opinion. That style of lantern was made in the early 1800s in Europe for holding candles, they are also made today. Without closely examining it it is hard to date. If there is a UL sticker on it that E number can be traced. My opinion on lighting is pretty good because I was in the business so long the fixtures I sold new are turning up in antique stores today.
Here is a really old one
http://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&hl=en&client=gmail&tbo=d&rls=gm&biw=1044&bih=662&tbm=isch&tbnid=FN5LIjJx8ieeqM:&imgrefurl=http://www.howelondon.com/products/FRENCH-19th-CENTURY-HALL-LANTERN.html&docid=UIM5pWUQhzeKAM&imgurl=http://www.howelondon.com/product_images/h/dsc06094__69113_thumb.jpg&w=424&h=636&ei=q270UP_kLYjW0gHQk4DgDw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=490&vpy=245&dur=9379&hovh=275&hovw=183&tx=120&ty=180&sig=117244918215382499773&page=1&tbnh=146&tbnw=106&start=0&ndsp=30&ved=1t:429,r:12,s:0,i:118 (http://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&hl=en&client=gmail&tbo=d&rls=gm&biw=1044&bih=662&tbm=isch&tbnid=FN5LIjJx8ieeqM:&imgrefurl=http://www.howelondon.com/products/FRENCH-19th-CENTURY-HALL-LANTERN.html&docid=UIM5pWUQhzeKAM&imgurl=http://www.howelondon.com/product_images/h/dsc06094__69113_thumb.jpg&w=424&h=636&ei=q270UP_kLYjW0gHQk4DgDw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=490&vpy=245&dur=9379&hovh=275&hovw=183&tx=120&ty=180&sig=117244918215382499773&page=1&tbnh=146&tbnw=106&start=0&ndsp=30&ved=1t:429,r:12,s:0,i:118)
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LOL, I thought they were two different ones!!! The larger, hanging chandelier is the one that will still bring in the money.
Would need a hands on inspection to determine age on it. Could have just had the candle inserts added.
frogpatch did a great job finding one made in similar fashion.