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Title: Here's a fun one. Bicycle from at least 1918
Post by: rockandrollrods on January 20, 2013, 09:11:34 PM
I've got a bicycle that I'm selling for a client. He purchased almost 30 years ago from the wife of the original owner, who raced it in 1918. I recognize the Fairbanks Boston wooden wheels, but the brand is a mystery to me. The badge has been removed, and I'm no bicycle expert. I can say with some authority though, is that that bicycle hurts like a banshee to ride!
Title: Re: Here's a fun one. Bicycle from at least 1918
Post by: rockandrollrods on January 20, 2013, 09:19:05 PM
Whoops. Forgot the question. Anyone know what brand this is? I've been doing to research, but I haven't found much yet.
Title: Re: Here's a fun one. Bicycle from at least 1918
Post by: bigwull on January 20, 2013, 09:31:06 PM
by wooden wheels...i assume you are meaning that instead of a tyre there is a wooden rim..it has metal spokes to tension the wheel...so therefore the inner rim i would expect to be metal
Title: Re: Here's a fun one. Bicycle from at least 1918
Post by: rockandrollrods on January 20, 2013, 09:41:49 PM
Nope. The spokes are metal but the rims are wood. The tires are rubber.
Title: Re: Here's a fun one. Bicycle from at least 1918
Post by: rockandrollrods on January 21, 2013, 02:24:49 AM
The trend of wooden wheels didn't last long. Although my dad has a set of wooden Buick ones from the '20s...

...hmm...maybe it is a trend in my family.
Title: Re: Here's a fun one. Bicycle from at least 1918
Post by: ghopper1924 on January 21, 2013, 08:13:28 AM
"that that bicycle hurts like a banshee to ride!"


No answer for you on the make/model, but I guess this proves that not everything was better in the "good old days."
Title: Re: Here's a fun one. Bicycle from at least 1918
Post by: rockandrollrods on January 21, 2013, 10:24:43 AM
It probably didn't help that I'm too short for it, there are no brakes, and I hadn't ridden a bike in years.
Title: Re: Here's a fun one. Bicycle from at least 1918
Post by: Ipcress on January 21, 2013, 10:59:45 AM
Surely that style of drop handlebar is a later addition ?
Title: Re: Here's a fun one. Bicycle from at least 1918
Post by: rockandrollrods on January 21, 2013, 11:56:10 AM
That's what I thought, but my client is a bicycle aficionado and he told me that those drop handle bars have been used since before this bike was made.
Title: Re: Here's a fun one. Bicycle from at least 1918
Post by: talesofthesevenseas on January 21, 2013, 12:29:09 PM
Neat bike! I would have thought it was later, it must have been quite advanced for its time.
Title: Re: Here's a fun one. Bicycle from at least 1918
Post by: Ipcress on January 21, 2013, 12:29:20 PM
From what i can see, drop h/b's were more at an angle back then as opposed to the style made famouse by Raleigh Racers.

A couple of links that might interest you and contact the owners

http://flickrhivemind.net/Tags/woodenrim/Interesting (http://flickrhivemind.net/Tags/woodenrim/Interesting)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/27041895@N05/6872345187/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/27041895@N05/6872345187/)
Title: Re: Here's a fun one. Bicycle from at least 1918
Post by: rockandrollrods on January 21, 2013, 08:03:48 PM
Thanks Ipcress! Great links!

I know the story behind. My client is the second owner. He bought thirty years ago from an older lady. Her husband was the one that raced. It is an advanced bike from what I can tell. From what I saw with the gears, every other point was ground down for what I'm assuming is less resistance. Back in the days before doping was the norm at least.
Title: Re: Here's a fun one. Bicycle from at least 1918
Post by: frogpatch on January 21, 2013, 08:53:11 PM
Mike from American Pickers would go crazy for that bike. It is a really great item.
Title: Re: Here's a fun one. Bicycle from at least 1918
Post by: rockandrollrods on January 21, 2013, 09:03:17 PM
That he would. If only we weren't 3,000 miles apart,
Title: Re: Here's a fun one. Bicycle from at least 1918
Post by: mart on January 21, 2013, 09:06:35 PM
Just saw a bunch of the wood rim racers !! Seems that gear design might help in tracking down maker !! Looked at one BSA that was very similar with the skip tooth chain and gear !! You can also try to match that name plate/head badge shape !! I can see the outline but not well !! One place I looked said that in 1900 there were a thousand different makers names in the US !!  Best thing would be to use a collectors site and join the forum !! Found a good one earlier but forgot which it was !!  Will look again tomorrow !!
Title: Re: Here's a fun one. Bicycle from at least 1918
Post by: rockandrollrods on January 21, 2013, 09:39:38 PM
Sweet! Thanks Mart! The shape is unique enough that I think I can find it that way. But yeah, 1,000 different badges sounds like fun...
Title: Re: Here's a fun one. Bicycle from at least 1918
Post by: mart on January 22, 2013, 09:50:04 AM
Try a google search of the most popular racing bikes from early 1900`s !! Also read that some of these were called "track bikes" rather than racers so that might help !! That gear design would hopefully be unique to that bike/maker !!
Title: Re: Here's a fun one. Bicycle from at least 1918
Post by: Rauville on January 22, 2013, 10:10:12 AM
Wow! I can see why this could become such a daunting assignment... :P

http://www.thewheelmen.org/sections/bicyclebrands/bicyclebrands.asp (http://www.thewheelmen.org/sections/bicyclebrands/bicyclebrands.asp)

Title: Re: Here's a fun one. Bicycle from at least 1918
Post by: KC on January 22, 2013, 10:58:03 AM
Can I inquire where in the country this was?  Might help with manufacturer at that time!

More Wood Rim possibilities!
http://veloaficionado.com/american-wood-bicycle-components-1896-1897/ (http://veloaficionado.com/american-wood-bicycle-components-1896-1897/)
Title: Re: Here's a fun one. Bicycle from at least 1918
Post by: sapphire on January 22, 2013, 02:08:12 PM
Take a glance through this gallery and see if anything matches up.  Might want to send a note off to them, they might be able to help.

http://www.oldspokeshome.com/full-museum-image-gallery
Title: Re: Here's a fun one. Bicycle from at least 1918
Post by: frogpatch on January 22, 2013, 06:34:23 PM
According to the profile it was purchased "somewhere between Heaven and hell." He says he is three thousand miles from Nashville and Iowa, so I would guess the west coast somewhere. Or Canada.
Title: Re: Here's a fun one. Bicycle from at least 1918
Post by: mart on January 22, 2013, 06:59:46 PM
California !!~  If I remember correctly !!
Title: Re: Here's a fun one. Bicycle from at least 1918
Post by: KC on January 22, 2013, 10:06:05 PM
frogpatch, my side hurt I laughed so hard!  This group is tooooo much some times!
Title: Re: Here's a fun one. Bicycle from at least 1918
Post by: rockandrollrods on January 22, 2013, 11:15:14 PM
I feel popular. I do reside in California. Southern California even. Thirty miles south of Disneyland kind of Southern California. Somewhere Between Heaven and Hell is the album title of Social Distortion's 1992 album (another SoCal band). I like the album, and the term works for forum locations. I'm a bit strange like that. I also just got off of a ten hour shift so that's why I'm late to the party.

But enough about me. Back to the bike taking up way too much space in my office...

The wheels are Fairbanks Boston wheels, and those I know a bit about. I very much appreciate the links, and I now have better platforms to start with on the research needed to get this thing sold. I do not know what part of the country that it came from as memory's had faded over the years, and the bike came out of Hemmings when the original owned listed it for sale. I'm going to stop by the used book this weekend and see if I can find any books on antique bicycles. I don't know much about them at all, and it's really time that I learned. Thanks for the links and ideas everyone! This place rocks!