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Title: Pattern/pressed glass goblet identification
Post by: eticknj on January 27, 2013, 01:12:46 PM
My mother-in-law had a collection of 82 pattern glass goblets.  Over the years, I have able to ID the patterns that weren't marked and sell them.  However, this one has me stumped.  I have searched through several pattern glass books and periodically google images without satisfaction.  I also brought it to a glass show where they offered appraisals.  All the gentleman could tell me was that it might be European.  Any help would be appreciated..origin, pattern, value etc.  Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Pattern/pressed glass goblet identification
Post by: bigwull on January 27, 2013, 02:38:10 PM
may be Bohemian....possibl y ..Moser...or if you are really lucky Loetz
Title: Re: Pattern/pressed glass goblet identification
Post by: mart on January 27, 2013, 07:33:09 PM
Looks like you have celery vases,, not goblets !!  Thats why you are not finding them !!  Try celery vases with medallions !!
Title: Re: Pattern/pressed glass goblet identification
Post by: eticknj on January 27, 2013, 09:04:29 PM
Thanks for both suggestions..I will begin searching on both of them
Title: Re: Pattern/pressed glass goblet identification
Post by: mart on January 28, 2013, 06:24:32 AM
http://www.patternglass.com/Store/CeleryVase/index.htm

Try here !!
Title: Re: Pattern/pressed glass goblet identification
Post by: eticknj on January 29, 2013, 02:43:11 PM
Thanks Mart..did not find my pattern but was surprised to find that celery vases had straight sides.  For some reason I thought they were all fluted or wider at the top.  Bigwull, also searching Bohemian glass but more extensive and time consuming.  Thanks a bunch.
Title: Re: Pattern/pressed glass goblet identification
Post by: mart on January 29, 2013, 05:40:32 PM
They were many different shapes !!
Title: Re: Pattern/pressed glass goblet identification
Post by: mart on January 30, 2013, 08:50:51 AM
I am bumping this up so can get more opinions here !!
Title: Re: Pattern/pressed glass goblet identification
Post by: mart on January 31, 2013, 11:09:42 AM
Another bump !!  Hope Wendy sees this !!
Title: Re: Pattern/pressed glass goblet identification
Post by: KC on January 31, 2013, 11:53:11 AM
If I am seeing this correctly the sides are slanted and typically celery glasses/vases had straight sides to hold up the celery straight. Gobletsdrinkware was typically slanted.

However, spooners could have slanted sides - but very rarely.

What is the depth of the cup/holder? (Not the height of the overall piece.)

Celery Vases were typically 6 - 9" and Spooners were typically 4 - 6" unless they were footed.

Note How i put TYPICALLY....but here is proof they did have slanted occassionally...
(http://mitziscollectibles.typepad.com/.a/6a011168ca5559970c015435c5f99a970c-pi)
Title: Re: Pattern/pressed glass goblet identification
Post by: mart on January 31, 2013, 12:05:05 PM
KC !!  Look at that link I gave !!  Seems that they were all different shapes and both the celery vases and spooners were interchangeable !!
Title: Re: Pattern/pressed glass goblet identification
Post by: KC on January 31, 2013, 12:24:57 PM
The L G Wright company made pieces with faces on them!
Title: Re: Pattern/pressed glass goblet identification
Post by: mart on January 31, 2013, 12:55:00 PM
I thought possibly George Duncan because of the etched medallion but didn`t find one in his !!  May be European,, I can`t find it here !!
Title: Re: Pattern/pressed glass goblet identification
Post by: greenacres on January 31, 2013, 04:19:29 PM
Duncan & Miller had a line called "Chanticleer". I'm going to Google images and see what comes up.
Title: Re: Pattern/pressed glass goblet identification
Post by: greenacres on January 31, 2013, 04:21:18 PM
Not it.
Title: Re: Pattern/pressed glass goblet identification
Post by: mart on January 31, 2013, 04:25:27 PM
This is a tough one !!
Title: Re: Pattern/pressed glass goblet identification
Post by: greenacres on January 31, 2013, 04:27:48 PM
Replacements.com might know.
Title: Re: Pattern/pressed glass goblet identification
Post by: KC on January 31, 2013, 08:28:30 PM
Were these possibly promotional items in detergent from the 50's to 60's time period?  Just something about them doesn't sit well.  You don't normally see people, cats, etc in a set.
Title: Re: Pattern/pressed glass goblet identification
Post by: mart on January 31, 2013, 08:32:30 PM
Some of the same shape were but I think these were way too heavy for that and too well made !! They would not have gone to that much trouble to etch the faces for a give away !!
Title: Re: Pattern/pressed glass goblet identification
Post by: KC on January 31, 2013, 11:42:30 PM
Are these the only ones like this?  If not, can we see pics of the others please?
Title: Re: Pattern/pressed glass goblet identification
Post by: frogpatch on February 01, 2013, 07:06:43 AM
I didn't have time to read through the entire thread but if no one provided this here is a link to the EAPGS.ORG Pattern ID Service. If they can't help I don't no who else could

http://www.eapgs.org/EAPGS/side/patternIdService/patternid.htm
Title: Re: Pattern/pressed glass goblet identification
Post by: greenacres on February 01, 2013, 01:07:37 PM
great info frogpatch!
Title: Re: Pattern/pressed glass goblet identification
Post by: mart on February 01, 2013, 03:01:32 PM
http://www.patternglass.com/Store/Goblets/index.htm
Couldn`t look through all of these but looking at the length of stem on the goblets here and the one in question,, it pretty much has to be a celery vase or spooner !!  Still need to know size !!
Title: Re: Pattern/pressed glass goblet identification
Post by: eticknj on February 01, 2013, 03:15:28 PM
Thanks for all of the interest.  I am a bit behind because my internet has been down...but now back in business.  I submitted it to the link for pattern ID today and will keep you posted.

The bowl is four and 3/4 inches deep and yes, I think it is too heavy to be a box enclosure; it weighs 1.15 pounds.  I don't have any others that are remotely like it.  I have sold most of them but definitely know there weren't any similar.  I am attaching a better photo of the entire glass if that might help.
Title: Re: Pattern/pressed glass goblet identification
Post by: mart on February 01, 2013, 06:29:44 PM
But you have several different faces,, don`t you including the cat ?? How many do you have total like this ??
Title: Re: Pattern/pressed glass goblet identification
Post by: eticknj on February 01, 2013, 06:37:02 PM
No, this is the only one.  It has a cat face on one side and a people face on the other side.  Sorry if the pics were confusing....it is one goblet/vase with two different raised subjects.
Title: Re: Pattern/pressed glass goblet identification
Post by: greenacres on February 01, 2013, 07:48:17 PM
How did you sell them if you didn't know what they were? Did you sell them on ebay? How much did you get if you don't mind me asking?
Title: Re: Pattern/pressed glass goblet identification
Post by: sugarcube5419 on February 01, 2013, 07:52:35 PM
http://forum.antiquebottles-glass.com/

is another place that would be willing to help
Title: Re: Pattern/pressed glass goblet identification
Post by: mart on February 01, 2013, 08:06:00 PM
How did you sell them if you didn't know what they were? Did you sell them on ebay? How much did you get if you don't mind me asking?

I think she said she was able to find the others !!  Just not this one !!
Title: Re: Pattern/pressed glass goblet identification
Post by: greenacres on February 01, 2013, 10:11:36 PM
Tanks, mart. Guess I wasn't payinying attention. ;D