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Title: Like To Know More About This William Goebel Item
Post by: MrDad on February 07, 2013, 02:58:18 PM
I recently came across this item, looks like a small vase or beaker with an interesting design. From the maker's mark I've determined it is from William Goebel in Bavaria, Germany. I'm guessing it's around 1920-1930, but it is just that, a guess.

Does anybody know more about it? Date, name, use, value, etc?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Like To Know More About This William Goebel Item
Post by: KC on February 07, 2013, 03:16:27 PM
Art Deco Style vase/planter from early 1930's.

Here is your maker's mark information:
http://www.heirloomsantiques.com.au/goebel-a-31.html (http://www.heirloomsantiques.com.au/goebel-a-31.html)
Title: Re: Like To Know More About This William Goebel Item
Post by: Ipcress on February 07, 2013, 04:40:37 PM
I've e-mailed a friend who should know as i found nothing like it on the net.
Title: Re: Like To Know More About This William Goebel Item
Post by: frogpatch on February 07, 2013, 06:29:17 PM
Classic Art Deco. I found nothing either. My gut feeling is that it is a rare piece and will be worth at least 200 - 300.00. Maybe a lot more. Do not sell it until you know for sure.
Title: Re: Like To Know More About This William Goebel Item
Post by: KC on February 09, 2013, 09:06:24 AM
This is from the time of "head vase" popularity so just in that it has value.  Add the name, style, etc...I am betting there is someone out there willing to pay $250 to $350+ for it!
Title: Re: Like To Know More About This William Goebel Item
Post by: frogpatch on February 09, 2013, 09:55:57 AM
Nice glaze too!
Title: Re: Like To Know More About This William Goebel Item
Post by: rockandrollrods on February 10, 2013, 02:15:55 AM
Very nice piece. I know that the Goebels are collectible, but they lost their artistic approach a lot even by the fifties if this is any indication of pre-war.
Title: Re: Like To Know More About This William Goebel Item
Post by: MrDad on February 10, 2013, 02:38:14 AM
Thank you for all your insight. I've not seen another one like this. If I find out more, I'll post it here too. Thanks!
Title: Re: Like To Know More About This William Goebel Item
Post by: greenacres on February 10, 2013, 12:14:44 PM
http://www.eclectables.co.uk/deco_ceramics/wall_plaques_&_masks

Interesting web site. It will give you some idea. It's from the UK.
Title: Re: Like To Know More About This William Goebel Item
Post by: mart on February 10, 2013, 06:24:14 PM
How big is this item,, from what I read the double crown mark wasn`t used till 1934/35 !!
Title: Re: Like To Know More About This William Goebel Item
Post by: MrDad on February 12, 2013, 02:52:50 AM
I don't have it with me right now, but it's about 4" tall; about 2" diameter. Looking at the photo I posted, it does make the head look bigger than it really is. It's a cup or beaker, more than I'd say it was a vase. Thanks!
Title: Re: Like To Know More About This William Goebel Item
Post by: MrDad on February 12, 2013, 04:42:35 AM
I found "The Goebel Collector's Guide" in Google Books and apparently the RX series is for "Raucherartikel Aschenbecher", i.e. Smoker's Items / Ashtrays, etc.
Title: Re: Like To Know More About This William Goebel Item
Post by: wendy177 on February 12, 2013, 05:42:11 AM
My first thought was an egg cup but if the RX is for Smoker's Items maybe a cigarette holder.
Title: Re: Like To Know More About This William Goebel Item
Post by: mart on February 12, 2013, 07:43:19 AM
I thought coffee mug !!  A smoke and a cup of joe !!
Title: Re: Like To Know More About This William Goebel Item
Post by: Ipcress on March 30, 2013, 06:06:33 AM

RX 648 A + B
A: Oval vessel for cigarettes, on the side lady's head and lady's hand with cigarette"
B: Oval ashtray with two rests for cigarettes  (matching ashtray)
1931 Sculpted by our sculptor Reinhold Unger
1969 Discontinued. "Discontinued" means that moulds and models were destroyed. It also means that production was ceased several years before the discontinuation year already.

She also sent me a picture of a page from that years catalogue and there it is, top left !
Title: Re: Like To Know More About This William Goebel Item
Post by: MrDad on March 30, 2013, 07:42:37 AM
Wow! Thank you Ipcress - that's great information.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Like To Know More About This William Goebel Item
Post by: Ipcress on March 30, 2013, 12:35:52 PM
Did you look at the image i attached ? Bottom of the post
Title: Re: Like To Know More About This William Goebel Item
Post by: mart on March 30, 2013, 12:44:13 PM
That pic doesn`t come up !!
Title: Re: Like To Know More About This William Goebel Item
Post by: bigwull on March 30, 2013, 02:42:08 PM
Credit given where credit is due...you,ve nailed it...Well done....and just in case you forget...there,s no Y..... ;D
Title: Re: Like To Know More About This William Goebel Item
Post by: bigwull on March 30, 2013, 02:45:09 PM
That pic doesn`t come up !!
It did for me....oops!...forgot...you,re still in the dark ages...if you click the link,and wait...how long for you i don,t know..but for me a second or 2 it loadsinto your pc, then you,ve got to open it... :D
Title: Re: Like To Know More About This William Goebel Item
Post by: Ipcress on March 30, 2013, 02:46:47 PM
That pic doesn`t come up !!
Does for me but here it is

(http://i48.tinypic.com/30ufdsp.jpg)
Title: Re: Like To Know More About This William Goebel Item
Post by: MrDad on March 30, 2013, 03:49:17 PM
It's obviously hard to completely tell from a B&W photo, but the colouring/shading does look slightly different. Other than that, it's an exact match. Any idea of value?
Title: Re: Like To Know More About This William Goebel Item
Post by: Ipcress on March 30, 2013, 03:56:30 PM
It's obviously hard to completely tell from a B&W photo, but the colouring/shading does look slightly different. Other than that, it's an exact match. Any idea of value?

Not seen another one like it on the net. I think people are more interested in the figures but there are plenty of real Goebel enthusiasts out there.

My auction estimate would be £100-150 but wouldn't be surprised to see it do more, although not " OH MY GOD ! " more.
Title: Re: Like To Know More About This William Goebel Item
Post by: bigwull on March 30, 2013, 04:23:14 PM
It's obviously hard to completely tell from a B&W photo, but the colouring/shading does look slightly different. Other than that, it's an exact match. Any idea of value?
::)