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Title: Type of bottle?
Post by: aabbccbb1 on February 21, 2013, 05:06:12 PM
Hey all,

I posted this in the "New Members" thread, but realized that's probably a pretty noob thing to do.  Forgive me if you saw it there first.  Regarding the item, I've done google and ebay searches for it, and I'm still not sure exactly what it is.  Best guesses are 1) perfume bottle, or 2) tincture bottle.

A gallery of pics: http://imgur.com/a/VQ6Tu (http://imgur.com/a/VQ6Tu)

The metal is non-magnetic, and heavy. There was a little bit of light blue corrosion in a place or two before the initial cleaning, so I'm guessing it may be chrome-plated copper.
The arms are welded(?) to the bottom, and the inside of the screw-off top rim shows signs of being turned on a lathe, as does the bottom of the piece...however, the base is not perfectly round on the outside. 
The crystal top is hand-ground, with some imperfections in pattern, and the metal cage itself is not perfectly symmetrical.
There are no maker's marks, unfortunately. The strange pattern in the glass you see on the bottom is just residue from whatever was in there before.

I'd appreciate any thoughts on 1) what it's for, 2) approximate age, and 3) value. As I said, I've come up empty-handed so far.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Type of bottle?
Post by: greenacres on February 21, 2013, 05:17:43 PM
Could you please take the top off so we can see the top seperately.
Title: Re: Type of bottle?
Post by: aabbccbb1 on February 21, 2013, 05:29:56 PM
Sure, sorry about that.  I've just updated the album.  Let me know if there are any other pics/angles you'd like to see!
Title: Re: Type of bottle?
Post by: greenacres on February 21, 2013, 05:34:24 PM
I wanted to know what was the bottom of the top.
Title: Re: Type of bottle?
Post by: aabbccbb1 on February 21, 2013, 05:40:41 PM
Sorry, do you want a pic of the bottom of the crystal top?  Or the underside of the screw-off, metal top piece?  The threads on the latter can be seen in pic 5, and the last pic in the album is a straight-on view of the bottom of the metal top...
Title: Re: Type of bottle?
Post by: bigwull on February 21, 2013, 05:43:59 PM
I wanted to know what was the bottom of the top.
typical woman...says one thing..but means another... ;D
Title: Re: Type of bottle?
Post by: greenacres on February 21, 2013, 05:44:54 PM
I think perfume, but haven't found it yet in my books. I'll keep looking. It's very unusual, very pretty.
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Post by: greenacres on February 21, 2013, 05:55:51 PM
What is it "Women are from Venus and Men are fron Mars"! ;D
Title: Re: Type of bottle?
Post by: aabbccbb1 on February 21, 2013, 05:58:40 PM
Haha, I appreciate your input!

I'm uploading a vid to youtube which should have all possible angles of all pieces in question for you!

It'll be up at http://youtu.be/8g8fP-YkxTo (http://youtu.be/8g8fP-YkxTo) in probably about 20 mins (it's just processing right now...)

Thanks again!
Title: Re: Type of bottle?
Post by: bigwull on February 21, 2013, 06:05:22 PM
Hey all,

I posted this in the "New Members" thread, but realized that's probably a pretty noob thing to do.  Forgive me if you saw it there first.  Regarding the item, I've done google and ebay searches for it, and I'm still not sure exactly what it is.  Best guesses are 1) perfume bottle, or 2) tincture bottle.

A gallery of pics: http://imgur.com/a/VQ6Tu (http://imgur.com/a/VQ6Tu)

The metal is non-magnetic, and heavy. There was a little bit of light blue corrosion in a place or two before the initial cleaning, so I'm guessing it may be chrome-plated copper.
The arms are welded(?) to the bottom, and the inside of the screw-off top rim shows signs of being turned on a lathe, as does the bottom of the piece...however, the base is not perfectly round on the outside. 
The crystal top is hand-ground, with some imperfections in pattern, and the metal cage itself is not perfectly symmetrical.
There are no maker's marks, unfortunately. The strange pattern in the glass you see on the bottom is just residue from whatever was in there before.

I'd appreciate any thoughts on 1) what it's for, 2) approximate age, and 3) value. As I said, I've come up empty-handed so far.

Cheers!
Whats with the Giraffe wi a load of pussies on its back.... ;D ;D
Title: Re: Type of bottle?
Post by: bigwull on February 21, 2013, 06:06:16 PM
Hey all,

I posted this in the "New Members" thread, but realized that's probably a pretty noob thing to do.  Forgive me if you saw it there first.  Regarding the item, I've done google and ebay searches for it, and I'm still not sure exactly what it is.  Best guesses are 1) perfume bottle, or 2) tincture bottle.

A gallery of pics: http://imgur.com/a/VQ6Tu (http://imgur.com/a/VQ6Tu)

The metal is non-magnetic, and heavy. There was a little bit of light blue corrosion in a place or two before the initial cleaning, so I'm guessing it may be chrome-plated copper.
The arms are welded(?) to the bottom, and the inside of the screw-off top rim shows signs of being turned on a lathe, as does the bottom of the piece...however, the base is not perfectly round on the outside. 
The crystal top is hand-ground, with some imperfections in pattern, and the metal cage itself is not perfectly symmetrical.
There are no maker's marks, unfortunately. The strange pattern in the glass you see on the bottom is just residue from whatever was in there before.

I'd appreciate any thoughts on 1) what it's for, 2) approximate age, and 3) value. As I said, I've come up empty-handed so far.

Cheers!
The bottle,s back again.....
Title: Re: Type of bottle?
Post by: aabbccbb1 on February 21, 2013, 06:13:17 PM
Whats with the Giraffe wi a load of pussies on its back.... ;D ;D

Haha, sounds like you hit the imgur "over capacity" page for a minute, there.  Glad the pics are back up!
Title: Re: Type of bottle?
Post by: bigwull on February 21, 2013, 06:35:01 PM
What is it "Women are from Venus and Men are fron Mars"! ;D
If that,s the case...which one are you..... ;D ;D ;D

http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&sugexp=les%3B&gs_rn=4&gs_ri=psy-ab&cp=23&gs_id=ml&xhr=t&q=image+of+venusian+woman&es_nrs=true&pf=p&biw=1024&bih=651&sclient=psy-ab&oq=image+of+venusian+woman&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bvm=bv.42661473,bs.1,d.d2k&fp=8243998a7e8c4379...and some Martian men for you to look at....i,might be in there somewhere... ;D
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=image+of+martian+men&hl=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=U70mUevtC4i10QXyh4DIBQ&sqi=2&ved=0CC0QsAQ&biw=1024&bih=651
Title: Re: Type of bottle?
Post by: mart on February 21, 2013, 06:58:10 PM
I can`t get the pic to come up !!  Can you post the pics here ??  Or at least one or two of them !!
Title: Re: Type of bottle?
Post by: bigwull on February 21, 2013, 07:18:54 PM
just for you Mart...
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Post by: bigwull on February 21, 2013, 07:20:13 PM
and more
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Post by: bigwull on February 21, 2013, 07:21:25 PM
and the last 2
Title: Re: Type of bottle?
Post by: mart on February 21, 2013, 08:20:19 PM
Thanks Wullie !!  Looks like a perfume to me !!  The French had large decorative bottles when tourists bought perfume there !!  It was much cheaper than buying it here !!   Is anything on the bottom of the bottle ??  Usually there was not but you can check !!
Title: Re: Type of bottle?
Post by: aabbccbb1 on February 21, 2013, 09:04:11 PM
Thanks Bigwull, you're a champ!  :)

Sorry the pics weren't showing for everyone...

There are no markings anywhere on the thing, from what I can see.  That would have been too easy!  haha
Title: Re: Type of bottle?
Post by: greenacres on February 21, 2013, 10:10:08 PM
I think what you have is Baccarat. Here's an example with top.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Vintage-Baccarat-Roger-Gallet-Reve-Fleuri-Crystal-Perfume-Bottle-1920s-/321072530263?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ac16a0357

I've seen one or two others on ebay. Still looking.
Title: Re: Type of bottle?
Post by: greenacres on February 21, 2013, 10:21:13 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/L-T-Piver-Astris-PARIS-FRENCH-Perfume-Bottle-/290861398110?pt=Antiques_Decorative_Arts&hash=item43b8b0b85e

Check this! You did very well. Where did you get the bottle?
Title: Re: Type of bottle?
Post by: ReviverCorey on February 21, 2013, 10:50:29 PM
Kinda looks like a piece of a set of liquor jars or i think they are called decanters i've seen bigger ones on american pickers usaully when there that small it should be with a bigger set.

http://www.greatgiftsformen.com/images/prod/decanter-pewter-mono69010.jpg

Pic not exactly the same but it comes in many designs people think it is perfume bottle could be depending if your bottle seems newer then 1960's or 1970's seem it may be because newer bottles have rubber for glass on the top piece for safety from cracking. back in the day when men got a newer bigger decanter the wife would hold there perfume in the old ones. Later on they started making perfume bottles to look the same as a decanter because it was widely recognized by women at that time. Since its Glass smell the male end of top that goes in female end most purfumes will soak in those slices made from the air tight seal and you can smell them if cleaned it could still be there just set the piece in from of houses vent about 8"-12"away once warm to touch smell again the heal will expand glass on the micro level
and push out the smell if soak in cleaner it may no long smell even if heated(can use hair dryer on WARM till making your hand swear be very careful with hairdrayer it gets really hot fast may hurt your piece home vent is 98% safe)

Title: Re: Type of bottle?
Post by: KC on February 22, 2013, 10:01:51 AM
Perfume bottle with dauber!!

Ya'll are on a roll on this thread!!!

Miss being on here.  Out of town and staying where there isn't internet!  Going through withdrawals!!!!
Title: Re: Type of bottle?
Post by: greenacres on February 22, 2013, 10:43:09 AM
KC, that would drive me nuts, too! But,it doesn't take much to do that!  ;D
Title: Re: Type of bottle?
Post by: aabbccbb1 on February 22, 2013, 11:53:49 AM
Thanks, guys!

French perfume bottle, circa 1920's!  That makes sense--the piece has both classic elements (i.e., the stopper), and more modern deco elements (i.e., the linear cage around the bottle), and Art Deco came about in France around that time, I believe.  Could this maybe be classified as a transition piece?  It seems to have a foot in both worlds.  Another example: it has modern, machined elements...but the bent wire was attached by hand, and the spacing isn't perfect. 

As for where I got it, would you believe Value Village for $3?  They sure missed this one!
Title: Re: Type of bottle?
Post by: greenacres on February 22, 2013, 12:34:17 PM
Your not kidding.
Title: Re: Type of bottle?
Post by: bigwull on February 22, 2013, 01:28:32 PM
Perfume bottle with dauber!!

Ya'll are on a roll on this thread!!!

Miss being on here.  Out of town and staying where there isn't internet!  Going through withdrawals!!!!
How did this get here then...pigeon perhaps..... ;D
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Post by: greenacres on February 22, 2013, 02:01:39 PM
 ;D
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Post by: KC on February 22, 2013, 02:45:29 PM
Thank goodness for Starbucks and shopping centers with internet!!!!!
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Post by: bigwull on February 22, 2013, 03:05:38 PM
and here was me thinking...you might,of used.....