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Antiques! => Antique Questions Forum => Topic started by: julianjoffie on February 25, 2013, 11:28:37 AM
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I need help identifying this mark in the attached photo.
Its on the base of a cheese stand which has a blue and white transfer of Ripon on it.
The mark says; semi china. english scenery
many thanks
j
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can you remove the duplicated post....it can sometimes cause confusion..for those of us that don,t see very well, and have to rely on $2 specs.... ;D
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can you remove the duplicated post....it can sometimes cause confusion..for those of us that don,t see very well, and have to rely on $2 specs.... ;D
I tried to but the system wont let me, says i am not allowed to remove my own posts?? sorry new on here.
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Well it says deleted so all the short sighted members will know not to post there...
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seeing as how Ripon is in North Yorkshire can i assume..you are on this side of the pond
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depends which side 'this side' is... Im in England. :)
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Can you show us a pic of the stand...Semi China...can be Delft...Chinese...o r other makes...we will be able to tell more from the pattern..i will assume that its blue on white....
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depends which side 'this side' is... Im in England. :)
;D this is the side with Ripon so it must be this side that its on....ain,t never heard of a Ripon on the other side of the pond...are you with me....just nod if you can hear me...is there anyone at home... ;D
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here goes.
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hows that Bigwull ??
thanks for interest 8)
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Mark looks like Wood & Son, I'm pretty sure that was their pattern. I don't have my Godden's handy at the moment. I will check later. GG
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Semi china is also known as Ironstone...as its heavier than normal porcelain...what you,ve got is most likely from Staffordshire...It might be Rileys...or Ridgeways...Riles did transfer printed dishes in the late 19th century...looking at some of there stuff..prices range from £10 then up up it goes...but until we tie down whose mark it is..this is only speculation...
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It's Minton
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Thanks Bigwull, Ipcress & gg27 for your notes. The only reference I can find anywhere to these markings or this pattern is this Minton drainer. Do you have any idea if many potteries used the same pattern or is it now most likely that it is a minton??
warmest regards
Jools
http://www.blueandwhite.com/museum.asp?m=Minton&p=English+Scenery
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It's Minton
a voice from Engerland tells us its Minton...are you going to keep it a secret...or are you going to show us...this place is all about learning from each other....
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Thanks Bigwull, Ipcress & gg27 for your notes. The only reference I can find anywhere to these markings or this pattern is this Minton drainer. Do you have any idea if many potteries used the same pattern or is it now most likely that it is a minton??
warmest regards
Jools
http://www.blueandwhite.com/museum.asp?m=Minton&p=English+Scenery
I've catalogued stuff like this before and it's generally accepted as Minton from the George IV / William IV period. They were a few stages of transition back then before they established themselves with more artistic pieces and date codes etc
Millers Antiques Guide also attributes it to Minton.
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http://www.roberthawkerantiques.co.uk/p/transferprinted-wares.html
The " English Scenery " plate there appears in a book on Minton.
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thank you that,s all we wanted to know....
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just found this thanks to all your pointers....
http://www.premierantiques.co.uk/superb-early-minton-semi-china-english-scenery-ewer-or-jug-c1830-1366-p.asp
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Thanks to all your notes i have found this with the same mark on the base.
http:// www.premierantiques .co.uk/superb-early-minton-semi-china-english-scenery-ewer-or-jug-c1830-1366-p.asp
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Glad it was found. I knew it looked familiar but gave a guess, which was wrong. Wasn't the first time & won't be the last time! :P
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gg27,, We are all wrong occassionally !!
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gg27,, We are all wrong occassionally !!
So true. Some are more able to admit it than others though! ;D
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Get me out of my comfort zone,, and I would top the list !! LOL
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anyone any idea of a value??
now that I know its minton, i am not sure I can risk using it for cheese anymore!
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Why Not....just because its Minton..does,nt mean you,need to stop eating cheese...unless of course you,re hash/bash merchant...with vandals that masquerade as children....then by all means...lock it away in a cupboard somewhere...then after you,ve popped your clogs your relatives can find it and sell it...BTW...not all Minton pieces are worth oodles of ££ ;D
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Now if it was one of these Minton cheese stands...then I could understand your reluctance for using it...these change hands for up to £1300+...but the blue & white semi china ones they can sell for as little as £30...
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thanks Bigwull
very useful ;D
jools
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Worth more than £30 but not the best pattern. I'd be selling as i don't like that willow style blue and white.
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Now if it was one of these Minton cheese stands...then I could understand your reluctance for using it...these change hands for up to £1300+...but the blue & white semi china ones they can sell for as little as £30...
Just as a point of interest, that cheese dish is one of the most faked ones out there. Don't ask how I know. :-[
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Now if it was one of these Minton cheese stands...then I could understand your reluctance for using it...these change hands for up to £1300+...but the blue & white semi china ones they can sell for as little as £30...
Just as a point of interest, that cheese dish is one of the most faked ones out there. Don't ask how I know. :-[
more useless info then... ;D