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Title: how much would u pay for this (lamps )
Post by: artx on March 05, 2013, 07:57:38 AM
 for the first pic : A pair of carriage lamps American  or  england
ca 1890. Brass, black painted metal and glass. Height: 40, 41 cm.

second pic:British miner's lamp
British miner's lamp (Wales), 1920 ca. Consists of white metal, brass and glass. Subject puck with mythological animal foil and caption Cymru (Wales). Height: 18 cm.
Title: Re: how much would u pay for this (lamps )
Post by: artx on March 05, 2013, 07:58:59 AM
sec pic:


thanks.
Title: Re: how much would u pay for this (lamps )
Post by: bigwull on March 05, 2013, 08:13:02 AM
This is a Davy Lamp...so named after its inventor..Sir,Humphrey Davy...this one is i think a minature one,as they are normally around 30cm...prices vary..from as little as £10...up to £100,s
Title: Re: how much would u pay for this (lamps )
Post by: KC on March 05, 2013, 09:46:16 AM
When I was at an antique store in Florida this past weekend, oddly enough found what I know to be a REPRODUCTION carriage lamp that easily passes for an aged/authentic one.  First time I have come across that!  They did a real good job on it!  Was amazed, impressed and disappointed all in one!

I would have to see a better pic/close up of them to say anything after experiencing this!
Title: Re: how much would u pay for this (lamps )
Post by: ghopper1924 on March 05, 2013, 09:54:29 AM
What a coincidence. I thought "reproduction" as soon as I saw them.
Title: Re: how much would u pay for this (lamps )
Post by: mart on March 05, 2013, 09:57:25 AM
Im would sure be cautious about the Carriage lamps !! Don`t think I would buy them for authentic !!  No experience with the other one !!
Title: Re: how much would u pay for this (lamps )
Post by: Ipcress on March 05, 2013, 11:26:01 AM
Yeah, they're repro. Barge pole time again
Title: Re: how much would u pay for this (lamps )
Post by: bigwull on March 05, 2013, 11:52:49 AM
Yeah, they're repro. Barge pole time again
So if we were to take your advice...we should,nt buy repo,s...well, you,ve either got too much money...or no sense....there,s money in anything...if you get it cheap enough,...
Title: Re: how much would u pay for this (lamps )
Post by: Ipcress on March 05, 2013, 12:11:28 PM
Yeah, they're repro. Barge pole time again
So if we were to take your advice...we should,nt buy repo,s...well, you,ve either got too much money...or no sense....there,s money in anything...if you get it cheap enough,...

" A pair of carriage lamps. c1890 "

smart Wully ;)
Title: Re: how much would u pay for this (lamps )
Post by: bigwull on March 05, 2013, 12:36:58 PM
Yeah, they're repro. Barge pole time again
So if we were to take your advice...we should,nt buy repo,s...well, you,ve either got too much money...or no sense....there,s money in anything...if you get it cheap enough,...

" A pair of carriage lamps. c1890 "

smart Wully ;)
i bought 4 of these..JR 150 speakers..they were incomplete...no outer foam..everyone in the saleroom swerved them...bar me,they cost me £4.80..i sold them for £900..
Title: Re: how much would u pay for this (lamps )
Post by: artx on March 05, 2013, 01:14:25 PM
well here the link for this item:
http://www.tiroche.co.il/NextAuctionDetails.asp?id=155&Page=18&page_size=15

thank you all.
Title: Re: how much would u pay for this (lamps )
Post by: Ipcress on March 05, 2013, 01:44:30 PM
Yeah, they're repro. Barge pole time again
So if we were to take your advice...we should,nt buy repo,s...well, you,ve either got too much money...or no sense....there,s money in anything...if you get it cheap enough,...

" A pair of carriage lamps. c1890 "

smart Wully ;)
i bought 4 of these..JR 150 speakers..they were incomplete...no outer foam..everyone in the saleroom swerved them...bar me,they cost me £4.80..i sold them for £900..

Nice ! Got sod all to do with those lamps though

A few lots earlier, they've called a magic lantern a " A German home screening device ". Some of their " ivory " netsukes also look more like resin.

http://www.tiroche.co.il/ItemPage.asp?id=42445&array_index=152 (http://www.tiroche.co.il/ItemPage.asp?id=42445&array_index=152)

This is Shou Lao, which they haven't mentioned. Very modern.
Title: Re: how much would u pay for this (lamps )
Post by: bigwull on March 05, 2013, 02:21:39 PM
i was merely pointing out that not all cheap things should be ignored...
Title: Re: how much would u pay for this (lamps )
Post by: Ipcress on March 05, 2013, 02:52:15 PM
i was merely pointing out that not all cheap things should be ignored...

I know, oor Wullie !

( great little comic that was )
Title: Re: how much would u pay for this (lamps )
Post by: bigwull on March 05, 2013, 04:23:59 PM
Wrong..it was annual that came out every at Christmas time...every second year...the Broons being the alternative years...
Title: Re: how much would u pay for this (lamps )
Post by: Ipcress on March 05, 2013, 06:33:43 PM
It was also a comic, smart arse. Published in The Sunday Post, and in Annual form ( the first being worth several thousand now ) and in comic form such as holiday specials.

Beano, Dandy, Oor Wullie - all comics.
Title: Re: how much would u pay for this (lamps )
Post by: bigwull on March 05, 2013, 06:41:34 PM
It was also a comic, smart arse. Published in The Sunday Post, and in Annual form ( the first being worth several thousand now ) and in comic form such as holiday specials.

Beano, Dandy, Oor Wullie - all comics.
oor Wullie was never a comic...like the Dandy Beano Beezer Topper,etc, it was only in the Sunday Post..but it was never published as a weekly comic...
Title: Re: how much would u pay for this (lamps )
Post by: Ipcress on March 05, 2013, 06:42:23 PM
comics don't have to be weekly. It was published in comic form.
Title: Re: how much would u pay for this (lamps )
Post by: bigwull on March 05, 2013, 06:54:55 PM
comics don't have to be weekly. It was published in comic form.
But it was never a comic in line with what you quoted i.e. Dandy Beano Oor Wullie, it was one page in the Sunday Post....I should know..as I come from the city in which it was published...and worked for a time at DC Thomsons...Kingsway East Factory..and in Blinshall Street...Dundee...
Title: Re: how much would u pay for this (lamps )
Post by: mart on March 05, 2013, 06:55:37 PM
The thing is,, the auctions where Artx is seem to be out of the scope of what we would consider cheap or even reasonable on some items !!  It all comes down to what something is worth in your area !!
Title: Re: how much would u pay for this (lamps )
Post by: artx on March 06, 2013, 03:25:29 AM
well there some items in this auction that if i  buy them at low esteem for sure i could earn some money.




 :)
Title: Re: how much would u pay for this (lamps )
Post by: bigwull on March 06, 2013, 05:13:06 AM
That,s what buying/selling is all about, artx...you can disregard..whats been said about not touching with barge poles etc...it would be different if you were buying to keep...but as you are only trying to learn and earn some money...then..as Mart says...if you think you can make some profit...go for it...and good luck....
Title: Re: how much would u pay for this (lamps )
Post by: mart on March 06, 2013, 05:30:17 AM
Thats my point !! Only you know what an item would sell for in your area !!  What would be reasonable there might not be here !!  So if you can make money,, by all means,, go for it !!
Title: Re: how much would u pay for this (lamps )
Post by: Ipcress on March 06, 2013, 05:48:49 AM
comics don't have to be weekly. It was published in comic form.
But it was never a comic in line with what you quoted i.e. Dandy Beano Oor Wullie, it was one page in the Sunday Post....I should know..as I come from the city in which it was published...and worked for a time at DC Thomsons...Kingsway East Factory..and in Blinshall Street...Dundee...

It's a comic. Always referred to when discussing comics. When you publish a comic strip in the Sundays, people always refer to them as comics. The fact Oor Wullie and Broons are better know for their annuals does not detract from the fact it was a comic.
On their official website, it states " The Broons and Oor Wullie, Scotland's favourite comic stars "

I worked for a book company / auctioneers which collaborated with DC Thomsons. Those special edition reprints of the Beano and Dandy first issues. Auctioned the original first issue of each at auction - went for a combined £12,000.  I helped catalogue this collection

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denis_Gifford#Collection_of_comics_and_other_popular_media (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denis_Gifford#Collection_of_comics_and_other_popular_media)
Title: Re: how much would u pay for this (lamps )
Post by: Ipcress on March 06, 2013, 05:54:15 AM
well there some items in this auction that if i  buy them at low esteem for sure i could earn some money.




 :)

Good, but my reference about barge poles was related to the statement they were late 19th century.
If you had said " i like these " or " i can buy for $100 and sell for $150 - should i " then that's a different matter.

Just like the other thread with the vases the estate agents claimed were 1800's. The vases didn't look it, and when asked how they knew, they couldn't give any information. People who aren't experienced making an ill informed appraisal. Or maybe just trying to rip someone off.
Title: Re: how much would u pay for this (lamps )
Post by: bigwull on March 06, 2013, 06:34:01 AM
comics don't have to be weekly. It was published in comic form.
But it was never a comic in line with what you quoted i.e. Dandy Beano Oor Wullie, it was one page in the Sunday Post....I should know..as I come from the city in which it was published...and worked for a time at DC Thomsons...Kingsway East Factory..and in Blinshall Street...Dundee...

It's a comic. Always referred to when discussing comics. When you publish a comic strip in the Sundays, people always refer to them as comics. The fact Oor Wullie and Broons are better know for their annuals does not detract from the fact it was a comic.
On their official website, it states " The Broons and Oor Wullie, Scotland's favourite comic stars "

I worked for a book company / auctioneers which collaborated with DC Thomsons. Those special edition reprints of the Beano and Dandy first issues. Auctioned the original first issue of each at auction - went for a combined £12,000.  I helped catalogue this collection

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denis_Gifford#Collection_of_comics_and_other_popular_media (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denis_Gifford#Collection_of_comics_and_other_popular_media)
Oor Wullie was never issued in the same format as the Dandy/Beano...thats all i,m saying...