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Title: Old Clock
Post by: pauljones on April 19, 2013, 05:35:07 AM
I inherited this clock about 20 years ago don't really know anything about it, just wondering if anyone knows anything about it or where i could get some information from about it.
I'm located in sussex uk 
Title: Re: Old Clock
Post by: bigwull on April 19, 2013, 06:42:27 AM
We need more info Paul,This looks like an Ormolu Mantle clock,with Garnitures,If the domes are original, and they do look like it, then this could be quite valuable, It may be French, German, or English,...what we need from you is, a makers name ?,a pic of the movement, any serial numbers,...anything that can help us determine its value...
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Post by: ghopper1924 on April 19, 2013, 06:59:13 AM
What Wullie said. Could be worth big $.
Title: Re: Old Clock
Post by: pauljones on April 19, 2013, 07:17:27 AM
Can't find a makers name but think i've ataached 2 more pics
Title: Re: Old Clock
Post by: bigwull on April 19, 2013, 07:31:54 AM
This pic,..unlike the others won,t open up,...I find in incredulous, that a Clock like this,does,nt have anything on it at all,..it has to have something,.no one   makes a clock like this without at least putting something on it...look at the base of the dome, the glass, short of dismantling the thing..there has to be something...
Title: Re: Old Clock
Post by: pauljones on April 19, 2013, 08:06:59 AM
ok will have another good look tonight when i get home cheers
Title: Re: Old Clock
Post by: bigwull on April 19, 2013, 10:01:21 AM
at least we are getting somewhere, now that i see letters/numbers...not much help yet, but once the main gang,..get out of bed...we might get somewhere,
Title: Re: Old Clock
Post by: Rauville on April 19, 2013, 10:11:17 AM
From a very amateur viewpoint, it appears like a typical "paris" type movement. Am I seeing the markings right, as "CH VI__ 2996"? Charles Vincenti was a French clock maker...but it's going to take someone with more knowledge to determine the origin of your impressive set.
Title: Re: Old Clock
Post by: KC on April 19, 2013, 10:16:55 AM
NICE SET!!!!

Looks French more than German!

Can you please expand on who you inherited it from...where they were located...history if any please?!

May I also add caution.  We are looking a photos and some items require a hands on inspection to feel and see quality of items.  If in fact this is a Vincenti (later 1800's)...you will need to have it inspected hands on to make sure it is an "original" and not a reproduction. 

Title: Re: Old Clock
Post by: bigwull on April 19, 2013, 10:20:07 AM
From a very amateur viewpoint, it appears like a typical "paris" type movement. Am I seeing the markings right, as "CH VI__ 2996"? Charles Vincenti was a French clock maker...but it's going to take someone with more knowledge to determine the origin of your impressive set.
You,re needing a pair of Marts $2 cheaters,...2993....is the number, ;D
Title: Re: Old Clock
Post by: KC on April 19, 2013, 10:42:13 AM
Here is one of the Vincenti marks....  They were very proud of medals earned and would note them on the plates!
http://www.dragon-antiques.com/EBIMAGE/oct10/2360_Vincenti_Fine_Ormolu_and_Marble_Clock_Set.asp (http://www.dragon-antiques.com/EBIMAGE/oct10/2360_Vincenti_Fine_Ormolu_and_Marble_Clock_Set.asp)

So many times on the plate you will find the mark of the retailer, importer/exporter, etc.
Title: Re: Old Clock
Post by: bigwull on April 20, 2013, 05:02:24 AM
hi Paul, may i suggest,you take this clock/garniture set,..to any one of these people...most do a free valuation...see link to address,s

http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&gs_rn=9&gs_ri=psy-ab&suggest=p&cp=20&gs_id=lv&xhr=t&q=auctioneers+in+sussex&es_nrs=true&pf=p&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&oq=auctioneers+in+susse&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.45512109,d.d2k&fp=a27feb7415af5ad3&biw=1009&bih=577

Title: Re: Old Clock
Post by: pauljones on April 21, 2013, 02:46:53 PM
Sorry i can't find any makers name or any other clue, will give the people in the link posted a call to see what they say. thanks will let you know what they say.
 
Title: Re: Old Clock
Post by: bigwull on April 21, 2013, 03:11:11 PM
The C.V.and the number 2993..may be enough...
Title: Re: Old Clock
Post by: Ipcress on April 21, 2013, 04:10:30 PM
The C.V.and the number 2993..may be enough...

That's who made the movement the full mark is Ch Vcne, the number being an early one and dating this around 1875 - 1880. 8 day movement striking on a gong - would be nice to see it with that circular cover off

I'd like to see an image of the porcelain and decoration.

Contact  Nancy Dyer ( ndyer@nawcc.org ) for the mark
Title: Re: Old Clock
Post by: frogpatch on April 21, 2013, 07:06:45 PM
My advice on this is take it to several experts. I do not know where you live but in NY Christies and Sotheby's  would be the places. It does appear to be French to me but I am not an expert.
Title: Re: Old Clock
Post by: Ipcress on April 21, 2013, 09:35:11 PM
It's not a Christies or Sothebys item these days but any decent auction house should be able to value it. Much depends on quality of porcelain, gilt etc

It looks nice but dated.
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Post by: pauljones on April 22, 2013, 01:28:26 AM
Hi is this any good
Title: Re: Old Clock
Post by: bigwull on April 22, 2013, 01:31:22 AM
My advice on this is take it to several experts. I do not know where you live but in NY Christies and Sotheby's  would be the places. It does appear to be French to me but I am not an expert.
First post...Sussex UK...... ;)
Title: Re: Old Clock
Post by: Ipcress on April 22, 2013, 03:28:11 AM
Gorringes or Campbells is the best place for that then, with slight preference for Gorringes as their sales are well attended and live on the interenet. Paul Campbell actually left Gorringes to set up his own place. It's lovely, but Gorringes have more foot traffic.

Thanks for the new image Paul but it doesn't show any of the movement, just the backplate. Can i see one of the hand painted porcelain sections ?