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Title: What Glue to Use on a MOP and Silver butter Knife?
Post by: talesofthesevenseas on May 30, 2013, 10:57:01 AM

A recently opened box of old family silver turned up this little butter knife in need of re-gluing. What type of glue should be used on this? The handle is solid Mother of pearl fitted with a post and the blade and collar are silver, I think plated, but I will double check on that when I get home. What glue do you recommend, maybe two-part epoxy?

Title: Re: What Glue to Use on a MOP and Silver butter Knife?
Post by: ghopper1924 on May 30, 2013, 11:20:32 AM

I would recommend that.

Title: Re: What Glue to Use on a MOP and Silver butter Knife?
Post by: mart on May 30, 2013, 11:30:57 AM

Yes !!  But be careful using it after the repair !!  Do not put a lot of pressure on that handle !!

Title: Re: What Glue to Use on a MOP and Silver butter Knife?
Post by: bigwull on May 30, 2013, 12:01:20 PM

a 4 minute epoxy will do it, but as from what i can see,there is very little of the spike that is going to be in the handle,..then i would say glue it, but don,t ever use it, as it will break,...and it may not break at the repaired part...and if that happens...then...it s "Goodnight Vienna."..

Title: Re: What Glue to Use on a MOP and Silver butter Knife?
Post by: talesofthesevenseas on May 30, 2013, 12:49:32 PM

Yeah, this is a preservation repair, not putting it into service.

Title: Re: What Glue to Use on a MOP and Silver butter Knife?
Post by: KC on May 30, 2013, 01:11:13 PM

Yepper epoxy!

Sorry it can't be used!  I love using older pieces!!!

Title: Re: What Glue to Use on a MOP and Silver butter Knife?
Post by: bigwull on May 30, 2013, 01:50:42 PM

Quote from: KC on May 30, 2013, 01:11:13 PM

Yepper epoxy!

Sorry it can't be used!  I love using older pieces!!!

I,m old!! ;D

Title: Re: What Glue to Use on a MOP and Silver butter Knife?
Post by: fancypants on May 30, 2013, 08:43:51 PM

I'd say to give some consideration to the actual 'void' area/space , when the two pieces are mated together (before glueing) .

If there's plenty of 'slop' between the two , or a gap from missing surfaces , epox (clear) is a simple way to go ... if it's tight .... gel superglue .

Since it's just a cosmetic repair , I'd do a bit of light 'roughing-up' of the surfaces with some 220-300 grit sandpaper & a cleanup with some isopropyl , so as to insure plenty of clean surface area for the adhesive(s) .

These types of handles on silverware look great by candle light !

Title: Re: What Glue to Use on a MOP and Silver butter Knife?
Post by: cogar on May 31, 2013, 03:34:42 AM

If you don't fix it right then it will likely just come apart again.

How about better pictures of the "ends" that join together so we can see "what's there" or "not there" to better tell you the best way to fix it.

Title: Re: What Glue to Use on a MOP and Silver butter Knife?
Post by: KC on May 31, 2013, 09:54:31 AM

Great cogar...you said what we all should have....

Title: Re: What Glue to Use on a MOP and Silver butter Knife?
Post by: bigwull on May 31, 2013, 10:01:37 AM

Quote from: KC on May 31, 2013, 09:54:31 AM

Great cogar...you said what we all should have....

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Title: Re: What Glue to Use on a MOP and Silver butter Knife?
Post by: talesofthesevenseas on May 31, 2013, 05:52:27 PM

OK I will take a couple of pics looking into each end. I tried it with my cell and couldn't get a clear image. I'll use my regular camera.

Title: Re: What Glue to Use on a MOP and Silver butter Knife?
Post by: cogar on June 01, 2013, 02:46:54 AM

"It takes less time to do it right than it does to explain why you did it wrong".

Title: Re: What Glue to Use on a MOP and Silver butter Knife?
Post by: fancypants on June 01, 2013, 10:12:03 AM

One 'trick' with items like this  ..... you can put some water (or isopropyl alcohol) insde of the ferrule & fit the handle inside of it .... empty out the liquid that remains & "eyeball measure" the amount , so as to determine the displacement of the 'void' (if any) within the assembly ... this will tell you how much adhesive is needed .

I think some old guy , maybe near Eureka , figured this out long ago .

 :D

I'm pretty sure that if this item had been broken when it was new , folks back then would have use a water-based formaldehyde glue to repair it !

Title: Re: What Glue to Use on a MOP and Silver butter Knife?
Post by: bigwull on June 01, 2013, 11:48:50 AM

From epoxy glue..to void displacement....jus t to glue a handle back on to a knife....it,ll be Rocket science next ;D