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Title: Japanese Teapot Cast Iron
Post by: yellowrose84 on May 30, 2013, 06:55:02 PM: Hello everybody.

I believe I have a cast iron Chinese tea pot based on the markings on the bottom. It is a thrift store find.

Is anyone familiar with Chinese tea pots?

Please help me!

Thank you for any/all replies! :D
Title: Re: Old Chinese Tea Pot Cast Iron
Post by: mart on May 30, 2013, 08:45:05 PM: It looks like cast aluminum,,not cast iron from what I can see !! What makes you think its Chinese ?? Cant see the bottom marks !!
Title: Re: Old Chinese Tea Pot Cast Iron
Post by: sugarcube5419 on May 30, 2013, 08:51:08 PM: hi mart,

this post is my daughters, i've seen this and its cast iron...there's markings on it but who knows which ones?

my garden is just starting to sprout--such a slow start for growing season this year here
Title: Re: Old Chinese Tea Pot Cast Iron
Post by: fancypants on May 30, 2013, 09:02:49 PM: I'm curious to know what the fluid capacity of your little item is , sugarcube5419 .

The 'style' of it is old & nice & the quality of the casting looks ok , but looks rather newish (factory-made 'patina') to my eye !
Title: Re: Old Chinese Tea Pot Cast Iron
Post by: yellowrose84 on May 30, 2013, 09:06:21 PM: http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-JAPANESE-CAST-IRON-TEAPOT-SIGNED/281109138217?_trksid=p2047675.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D11%26meid%3D8036791483338846385%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D1005%26rk%3D2%26sd%3D161025814984%26

My teapot has a different marking on the bottom and that is what I am most curious about.
Title: Re: Old Chinese Tea Pot Cast Iron
Post by: sugarcube5419 on May 30, 2013, 09:06:31 PM: hi fancy

its my daughters and she thought chinese but i think its japanese--she's searchin ebay now

think you may be right, doesn't look old

has slight rust--let me run something by you i just read tonite--put a potato on rust and it will come off

any thoughts,,anyone heard of that
Title: Re: Old Chinese Tea Pot Cast Iron
Post by: mart on May 30, 2013, 09:11:20 PM: Hi Sugarcube !! I have been in green beans all day and just now finishing up !! Looking at that pot,, cast iron would not have had those (looks like) hammered marks ??? Or at least none I have ever seen did !! Just read your post to Fancy,, if it has rust,, it has to be new cast iron !! That's why it looks lighter than it should !!
Can you take a closer shot of those bottom marks !! Will check more tomorrow,, I am bushed !!
Title: Re: Old Chinese Tea Pot Cast Iron
Post by: sugarcube5419 on May 30, 2013, 09:13:34 PM: me too mart--tomorrow is another day
Title: Re: Old Chinese Tea Pot Cast Iron
Post by: fancypants on May 30, 2013, 09:24:47 PM: Sorry , missed all that due to my cats hittin' the kb & shutting down the 'puter !

Seen plenty of 'hammer peened' surfaces in cast iron , esp from the Asian regions , mart (pleasant dreams , BTW) .

The potato 'trick' with rust removal on iron works well , but it is an 'acid' treatment ... oxylitic (or something like that , if memory serves) !
Title: Re: Japanese Teapot Cast Iron
Post by: Ipcress on May 31, 2013, 04:47:16 AM: It's not very old at all and the characters on the base look more like Thai

( although i haven't zoomed in on the image )
Title: Re: Japanese Teapot Cast Iron
Post by: bigwull on May 31, 2013, 05:41:37 AM: i,d say it looked more like a small kettle
Title: Re: Japanese Teapot Cast Iron
Post by: bigwull on May 31, 2013, 05:43:59 AM: here you are...its a Japanese tea kettle....much cheapness...

http://www.wayfair.co.uk/VICTOR-Solid-Cast-Iron-Tea-Kettle-CWE060-L1488-K~VYY1067.html?refid=GPAUK321-VYY1067&gclid=CPKm_NqhwLcCFVMbtAodphwAkg
Title: Re: Japanese Teapot Cast Iron
Post by: bigwull on May 31, 2013, 06:18:36 AM: and another one....

http://www.castinstyle.co.uk/product.php/1290/japanese-cast-iron-tea-pot?gclid=CL6G1r6pwLcCFSXItAod7T4AmA
Title: Re: Japanese Teapot Cast Iron
Post by: sugarcube5419 on May 31, 2013, 07:02:24 AM: thank you to both--right on the money

hollys working I'll let her know mystery solved
Title: Re: Japanese Teapot Cast Iron
Post by: Ipcress on May 31, 2013, 07:04:15 AM: They've said Japanese design. Characters don't look Japanese.

Reminds of the Yixing teapots the Chinese make but they're made from clay

Actually, could be the more modern alphabet which i'm not familiar with as there are similarities with characters i've just googled
Title: Re: Japanese Teapot Cast Iron
Post by: bigwull on May 31, 2013, 07:09:37 AM: Oh Dear God...another Rivetcounter....its either Ip,s way or no way... ;D ;D
Title: Re: Japanese Teapot Cast Iron
Post by: sugarcube5419 on May 31, 2013, 07:20:05 AM: --so maybe just repro?
Title: Re: Japanese Teapot Cast Iron
Post by: bigwull on May 31, 2013, 07:36:24 AM: Or maybe not....

http://compare.ebay.co.uk/like/130899454036?var=gv&ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar&_lwgsi=y&cbt=y&device=c&adtype=pla&crdt=0&ff3=1&ff11=ICEP3.0.0&ff12=67&ff13=80&ff14=65&ff19=0
Title: Re: Japanese Teapot Cast Iron
Post by: sugarcube5419 on May 31, 2013, 07:39:33 AM: wow wull--you sure a stick into the pot--

could it be
Title: Re: Japanese Teapot Cast Iron
Post by: Ipcress on May 31, 2013, 07:41:52 AM: Quote from: bigwull on May 31, 2013, 07:09:37 AM
Oh Dear God...another Rivetcounter....its either Ip,s way or no way... ;D ;D

You were going to throw a £125 sideboard into the burner a couple of weeks ago.
Title: Re: Japanese Teapot Cast Iron
Post by: Ipcress on May 31, 2013, 07:43:30 AM: The one on Ebay is massively overpriced but older than the one in the first post.
Title: Re: Japanese Teapot Cast Iron
Post by: sugarcube5419 on May 31, 2013, 07:50:19 AM: i wish I could figure out how to use a translator on the computer but even then i have no idea how to copy paste that/
Title: Re: Japanese Teapot Cast Iron
Post by: bigwull on May 31, 2013, 07:55:54 AM: I,ve thrown more expensive things than a £125 sideboard..into skips in the past....mind you they were,nt valuable at the time...I,m talking about...old Cast iron fireplaces...that were ripped out of houses,under going modernization...dur ing the 60,s/70,s..and sold for scrap..If i only knew then what I know now....now to make yer toes curl....Avrils late aunt...burnt a rare set of Hickory shafted golf clubs that were given to her by the famous golfer, Ben hogan...just after he,d won the Open,at Carnoustie in 1953 he,d used them on his practice round...and gifted them to Avrils aunt Agnes.as she was a maid at the NCR club in which he stayed,..but..a few years later during a really cold winter..Agnes cut the heads off,of the clubs and used the shafts for kindling....
Title: Re: Japanese Teapot Cast Iron
Post by: sugarcube5419 on May 31, 2013, 08:05:20 AM: no freakin way------------------------
Title: Re: Japanese Teapot Cast Iron
Post by: bigwull on May 31, 2013, 10:07:13 AM: Quote from: sugarcube5419 on May 31, 2013, 08:05:20 AM
no freakin way------------------------

Gods,truth,..i told that story to a friend of mine..who is a golfer...and he shook his head...and said...they would have been worth at least 6 figures..today..or maybe more.....with a provenance like that....but in the early 50,s,..they were just an old set of wooden shafted golf clubs...