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Title: struggling like mad on this one !
Post by: thecatjh on June 03, 2013, 02:56:15 PM
Hi All

I have spent ages trying to find who is the maker of this item and the age
I have been all over internet including google image's, millers online, etc etc but cannot find it anywhere
it has 7841 embossed on side and 37 on bottom - it is very deco in design but want to know more

Can you help ?

Cheers
thecatjh
Title: Re: struggling like mad on this one !
Post by: bigwull on June 03, 2013, 02:57:29 PM
We might if you show us it.....we are not telepathic...
Title: Re: struggling like mad on this one !
Post by: thecatjh on June 03, 2013, 03:01:27 PM
sorry computer clitch on there now :)
Title: Re: struggling like mad on this one !
Post by: bigwull on June 03, 2013, 03:40:15 PM
sorry computer clitch on there now :)
yeah...that,s what everyone says....apart from me...more like operator error....i,m an ace operator errorer..."new"word.... ;D
Title: Re: struggling like mad on this one !
Post by: mart on June 03, 2013, 04:08:40 PM
Candle holder ?? 
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Post by: KC on June 03, 2013, 10:47:42 PM
Looks like the style from the 60's to 70's.
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Post by: mart on June 04, 2013, 08:38:37 AM
I was guessing 40ish !!
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Post by: greenacres on June 04, 2013, 02:26:13 PM
Why do I think this is a Picasso piece? It looks so familiar.
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Post by: bigwull on June 04, 2013, 02:46:30 PM
Why do I think this is a Picasso piece? It looks so familiar.
Nooooooooo...this is a Picasso..... ;D ;D...I,get my new one in Oct....
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Post by: greenacres on June 04, 2013, 03:33:13 PM
What is the name of the car? Is it strictly European?
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Post by: mart on June 04, 2013, 04:41:36 PM
Why do I think this is a Picasso piece? It looks so familiar.
Nooooooooo...this is a Picasso..... ;D ;D...I,get my new one in Oct....

Why so long ??
Title: Re: struggling like mad on this one !
Post by: bigwull on June 05, 2013, 01:44:36 AM
What is the name of the car? Is it strictly European?
its a Picasso....made by Citroen....1.6 TDi
Title: Re: struggling like mad on this one !
Post by: bigwull on June 05, 2013, 01:46:01 AM
Why do I think this is a Picasso piece? It looks so familiar.
Nooooooooo...this is a Picasso..... ;D ;D...I,get my new one in Oct....

Why so long ??
Its what,s called an MPV....
Title: Re: struggling like mad on this one !
Post by: thecatjh on July 01, 2013, 06:29:23 AM
Why do I think this is a Picasso piece? It looks so familiar.

Hi sorry for late reply been away - can you elaborate more on Picasso piece (and not the car lol )
I am still very much struggling with this and cannot seem to tie this piece to anything
So any helpful experts out there please put me out of misery
Cheers
Thecatjh
Title: Re: struggling like mad on this one !
Post by: mart on July 01, 2013, 06:39:57 AM
I did not find anything like it !!   I think Wullie was referring to the distorted way the piece is made as like Picasso !!  But Picasso did do a few things,, not sure about this though !!
Wish we could help but without some way to figure which direction to look its darn near impossible !!
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Post by: bigwull on July 01, 2013, 06:50:32 AM
I did not find anything like it !!   I think Wullie was referring to the distorted way the piece is made as like Picasso !!  But Picasso did do a few things,, not sure about this though !!
Wish we could help but without some way to figure which direction to look its darn near impossible !!
Nooooooooooo!!...was,nt me....that was G,acre....who thought it looked Picasso...ish.....m e i think it looks like something you,d get get as a booby prize at the carnival.....like, score 21..and win a teddy bear.....score 20 and you get lumbered with this.... :D
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Post by: Ipcress on July 01, 2013, 06:57:20 AM
Why is it deco ? Looks more " kitsch " to me.
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Post by: thecatjh on July 01, 2013, 07:11:00 AM
Why is it deco ? Looks more " kitsch " to me.
thanks for post - with the embossed numbered marking on side and the signature on bottom I get the deco feel to it, maybe wrong but cannot find anything online or in books on this piece
Some info I missed out on - last week a dealer offered me £30 for it when out on my antique stall at boot sale but wouldn't tell me about it which annoyed me but the fact offered me £30 made me wonder even further that's why its bugging hell out of me.
more pics below to help maybe ?

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Post by: mart on July 01, 2013, 07:41:43 AM
What signature on bottom ??? You gave numbers but no sig. !!!
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Post by: thecatjh on July 01, 2013, 07:46:27 AM
What signature on bottom ??? You gave numbers but no sig. !!!
sorry its the little "37" on the bottom of feet my apologies more number than signature but hand done for sure
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Post by: mart on July 01, 2013, 07:59:52 AM
The 7841 is the style number of the piece,,which many commercially produced items have !! The number on the bottom could be either,,year made,,number of the painter because many were paid by piecework so each one the person painted would have their number on it so they would be paid accordingly,, or a third possibility,, if you flip the piece over is that it could be initials LE rather than 37 !!  A remote possibility but ,,,, still would be the initials of the painter !!! Personally I think it a year made !!
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Post by: sapphire on July 01, 2013, 08:05:38 AM
A shot in the dark here.......did a 1/2 rotation and it almost resembles mountains.  I've come across the Turtle Mountain pottery .....not it but uses the same 'M' in the shape of a mountain.

Wonder if there's a slight possibility that it's a maker's mark?

Title: Re: struggling like mad on this one !
Post by: bigwull on July 01, 2013, 08:32:03 AM
£30 for it....you should have bit his hand off....i,m thinking more along the lines of 30 bob....thats £1.50 in new money.....as for the £30 manny telling you what it is....well, it does,nt work that way.....the onus is on you to find ouit.if it is ..anything other than....a wotsit....its the same colour mind you....
Title: Re: struggling like mad on this one !
Post by: thecatjh on July 01, 2013, 08:48:23 AM
Mart - superb that would tie in then as Deco
Sapphire - many thanks could well be and gives me more to go on
Wull - of course its on me to find out - hence this thread ;)

see what comes up next few weeks and will keep you posted :)
Title: Re: struggling like mad on this one !
Post by: bigwull on July 01, 2013, 09:25:07 AM
in the meantime...watch you don,t drop it....it was worth a minimum of 30 squids...eh jist think you,ve got to much money..... ;D
Title: Re: struggling like mad on this one !
Post by: mart on July 01, 2013, 10:29:13 AM
Mart - superb that would tie in then as Deco
Sapphire - many thanks could well be and gives me more to go on
Wull - of course its on me to find out - hence this thread ;)

see what comes up next few weeks and will keep you posted :)

Would be very late for Deco,, ending of period going into 40`s which is when most of this type were popular !!  War, you know !!  Many things were intended to make people smile and get their mind off world issues !!
Does that 7 on bottom have a cross mark like if European ??
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Post by: bigwull on July 01, 2013, 11:13:32 AM
that nummer seven..if it is ane does have a wee cross on it....
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Post by: Ipcress on July 01, 2013, 11:17:15 AM
It's not deco. More likely mid 20th continental or Russian.
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Post by: bigwull on July 01, 2013, 11:25:32 AM
its no anything from where i,m sitting...if that manny comes back and offers you that £30 ....which...i doubt if he will.....but if he does...bite his bloody hand off,...before he changes his mind...... ;D
Title: Re: struggling like mad on this one !
Post by: mart on July 01, 2013, 03:01:49 PM
It's not deco. More likely mid 20th continental or Russian.

I agree,,,I don`t see Russian as a possibility but you never know !!
Title: Re: struggling like mad on this one !
Post by: bigwull on July 01, 2013, 04:23:11 PM
on reflection...did the guy that offered you £30 for this,..have a white stick and a dog.....because..if he did,nt..he should have....this wotsit has to be the ugliest thing...that i,ve ever seen on here,..... ;D
Title: Re: struggling like mad on this one !
Post by: mart on July 01, 2013, 07:41:31 PM
Awww,, Wullie I think it kinda cute !! Different at least !!
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Post by: bigwull on July 02, 2013, 03:15:16 AM
Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.....for everyone else....its debateable..... :D