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Title: help with a stamp/hallmark
Post by: rogue on June 13, 2013, 03:43:37 PM: I came across an interesting item. I believe it is pewter but not sure. I will post a pic of it later to. I beit may be a flask or something similar.
Title: Re: help with a stamp/hallmark
Post by: mart on June 13, 2013, 04:06:01 PM: Can you post a pic of the entire object ?? Does look like pewter but need to see it !!
Title: Re: help with a stamp/hallmark
Post by: rogue on June 13, 2013, 04:18:40 PM: It came from eastern Europe area I do believe.
Title: Re: help with a stamp/hallmark
Post by: mart on June 13, 2013, 04:22:08 PM: Looks more like a funeral urn to me !!
Title: Re: help with a stamp/hallmark
Post by: rogue on June 13, 2013, 04:31:15 PM: It's very small holds 2 1/2 cups of liquid. I'm more intrigued by the unusual mark.
Title: Re: help with a stamp/hallmark
Post by: mart on June 13, 2013, 04:59:36 PM: http://www.oldandsold.com/articles02/metals-a.shtml

Read about angel touchmark here !! Does it have any other marks other than this ?? Since this is a quality mark rather than makers touchmark,, need something else to identify it !!
Its spun pewter so not too old !!
Title: Re: help with a stamp/hallmark
Post by: mart on June 13, 2013, 05:22:58 PM: Quote from: rogue on June 13, 2013, 04:31:15 PM
It's very small holds 2 1/2 cups of liquid. I'm more intrigued by the unusual mark.

Does it have a handle or just round ??
Title: Re: help with a stamp/hallmark
Post by: Ipcress on June 13, 2013, 08:00:04 PM: Quote from: mart on June 13, 2013, 04:59:36 PM
http://www.oldandsold.com/articles02/metals-a.shtml

Read about angel touchmark here !! Does it have any other marks other than this ?? Since this is a quality mark rather than makers touchmark,, need something else to identify it !!
Its spun pewter so not too old !!

It's a spurious version of that mark.
Title: Re: help with a stamp/hallmark
Post by: mart on June 13, 2013, 08:17:02 PM: Best I could find on short notice !! Does not look like its for liquid !!
Title: Re: help with a stamp/hallmark
Post by: greenacres on June 13, 2013, 09:27:49 PM: http://www.ebay.com/itm/High-Relief-Pewter-Plate-Angel-with-Trumpet-Mark-Card-Scene-Men-Boy-Dog-/370820845612?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5656a5102c

This is another example of an angel mark. Just have to find the right company.
Title: Re: help with a stamp/hallmark
Post by: greenacres on June 13, 2013, 09:37:21 PM: http://www.ebay.com/itm/6-Vintage-German-Angel-Mark-Rein-Zinn-Pewter-95-Matching-Shot-Glasses-/161040810162?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item257ec7c0b2

Found it! This is your maker. Mark Rein Zinn
Title: Re: help with a stamp/hallmark
Post by: rogue on June 14, 2013, 03:53:27 AM: It doesn't have a handle. I also knew it wasn't "old old" just the interesting mark. The one that is by Mark Rein Zinn is very similar. From what I have read, the N Sth comes from French meaning set free what was bound. It also is used to describe a very high grade metal used in Salomon ski bindings? Still have found no similar items though. What was its intended use? Hhhmmmmm?
Title: Re: help with a stamp/hallmark
Post by: Ipcress on June 14, 2013, 05:30:25 AM: It's not the mark Greenacres has linked to, although it is similar, and Rein Zinn is not a maker.

Also, this mark appears to have been applied a couple of times - notice the shadow line and the right half of the outer circle slightly of line. The angel's right foot develops in to the bottom half of another S

Think this is the closest we'll find

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ANTIQUE-PEWTER-TEA-CADDY-JAR-URN-VESSEL-SCREW-TOP-COVER-LID-ANGEL-ESS-MARKED-/390595250864 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/ANTIQUE-PEWTER-TEA-CADDY-JAR-URN-VESSEL-SCREW-TOP-COVER-LID-ANGEL-ESS-MARKED-/390595250864)

If you wish to continue searching, try using Ore Angel Michael in various forms.
Title: Re: help with a stamp/hallmark
Post by: rogue on June 16, 2013, 02:09:02 PM: Thanks. That is the mark with different initials. I have looked closer and to me it looks like the foot isn't an S but a symbol. Like one seen in Egyptian or Greek the sickle. Which makes sense since that symbol represents lead or metal