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Antiques! => Antique Questions Forum => Topic started by: Clint on July 04, 2013, 03:19:08 AM
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Hello all,
First post on here!
I found this cabinet in my loft, I have no idea of its design or even where it came from. Does anyone have any knowledge of the design or anything?
It has a key type device and a lock, but no key guard around the lock.
I am in the UK and my house was built c.1928.
Any info would be much appreciated!
Clint
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Nice! What are the measurements? Are there shelves?
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most likely a bedside cabinet....judging from the pics i,d say about 3ft high,x about 20in/22in wide,...looks like oak, and has had various handles on the front..in the past,hence all the screw holes....the original handle will have been a round knob,with a square shaft...design wise....it has a deco look,.....value...here in UK..in this condition....i,d put it at around, £30/£60
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May have had a shelf for a chamber pot !! Would make a nice little bar !!
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Beautiful piece! Looks to be Oak (like Wullie said).
Beat me to it Mart. Is there a shelf inside or does it seem there was one in the past?
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Hi all,
Thank you for the responses and information! It is much appreciated! It does have a shelf but is not as big as suggested; 36 x 36 x 71cm or 14 x 14 x 28inches. It would be nice to get another keyguard&key or handle again.
I have attached a few other photos.
Would anybody be interested? ;D
Regards,
Clint
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Yep !! Just get a pretty chamber pot to go in it !! Bedside table !!
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It is a very lovely piece. I would say in my area around 125.00. Does not look like oak to me. The grain is not pronounced enough.
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The grain is not pronounced enough????.... what way do you think it should be....bearing in mind that there are many different oaks....there,s English, American, Japanese.....or white, red, medium,...take yer pick......
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Is that water stain in the center front? Is the same on the inside of the door?
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i dunno about a water stain....but that sure looks like a smelly sock lying on the floor next to the equally..smelly shoe.... ;D
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Haha! Darn, you caught me out on the sock! And shoe! ;)
Yeah the seems to be a stain on the front, I hadn't really noticed it before! It's not on the back though.
Would anyone like to make me an offer? :D the style doesn't really go with my decor!
I appreciate all of the information! It's much appreciated!
Regards,
Clint
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we are not a buying forum..... :D..ebay, is you best bet...and if you do decide to put it on ebay...do yourself a favour....offer to post it....its cheaper than you think....the cost of posting this via a carrier will be around £15...you can check out these guys...www.parcel2g o.com...i got a quote based on your measurements.and put a weight of 12kg..on it..and you can have it uplifted for as little as £7,99 + vat.....doing that,give,s you a broader market....instead of putting collection only..which would limit your market....
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On second look some of the wood looks like oak but not all of it. Especially not decorative the panel on the door. That looks more like maple or birch to me.
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i would be inclined to agree with you...on not all of it being oak....over here in the UK...it was common for this type of furniture to have a mix of soft woods and hard woods,...the back looks to be.tongue/grooved lining...which will most likely be pine,the inlay....could well be maple or birch...or another.....
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i would be inclined to agree with you...on not all of it being oak....over here in the UK...it was common for this type of furniture to have a mix of soft woods and hard woods,...the back looks to be.tongue/grooved lining...which will most likely be pine,the inlay....could well be maple or birch...or another.....
Just a side note regarding the description of woods used in English furniture: If you have a chance to look at the recently published book "Woods in British Furniture Making, 1400 - 1900" by Adam Bowett, try to do so.
It's a big book that covers some 500 species, and will definitely become the standard of identification in the future.
One interesting term that is discussed is that of Wainscot. I never gave it a thought that it was anything other than the paneling by the same name. Apparently in England the term was also used for "High quality imported European Oak" prior to 1900.
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Thanks all for the comments, information and advice, it is much appreciated!
It's lighter than you think, weighting in at about 8.7kgs!
Might this help with the wood identification debate? ;)
Now on to the 'key' device (see photo). I feel it is just a means in which to open the cabinet, thus has no real relation.
Regards,
Clint
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but will this big book fit between the cheeks of ..my arse......that,s what i want to know..... ;D.....
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at 8.7kg..it,ll be even cheaper to post.....
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but will this big book fit between the cheeks of ..my arse......that,s what i want to know..... ;D.....
Haha!
I've just updated my previous post too!
Regards,
Clint
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Take measurements and look on ebay for latch/lock assembly to match and just replace the whole thing !!
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there is little enough money in this cabinet as it is..without throwing more money at it....if they were to replace the lock and key...then they,d have to find the large brass escutcheon...that has been on the front.....i,d be ok to do this if they were keeping it.....but..their indication is to sell it....therefore why spend more on it than they are likely to recoup.....its a no brainer.....
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Now on to the 'key' device (see photo). I feel it is just a means in which to open the cabinet, thus has no real relation.
That looks to me like the original key for that lock ..... and given the fact the lock's face-plate on the door is missing .... might explain the bent key.
To be sure, take the lock off the door to see if the other side has a round hole or a key hole.
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this cabinet did not have a key....the "key"..if you want to call it that...was actually...incorpor ated into the handle which would have been part of the face plate....as if you look closely you can see a square hole in the lock,and when the face plate was attached the,stub shaft of the handle would engage with that hole,
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this is what i would envisage being on that door....something like this.on the obverse side,there is a square shaft spindle,that would be cut to length,...then the handle is screwed to the door,and the spindle engages the hole, a half turn of the knob,and the door would open.....
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Art-Deco-Style-Door-Knob-on-Latch-Lock-Plate-/170870990524?pt=UK_Home_Garden_Door_Accessories_LE&var=470241984710&hash=item27c8b466bc
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I am revising my earlier summation...I didn't see many bedroom side tables that were keyed with slop pots! (Who would want to unlock to go to the pot?)
My first reaction when I initially saw this was a hall cabinet or deco piece for the formal living. Going back with that.
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I am revising my earlier summation...I didn't see many bedroom side tables that were keyed with slop pots! (Who would want to unlock to go to the pot?)
My first reaction when I initially saw this was a hall cabinet or deco piece for the formal living. Going back with that.
over here the "pish" pot was kept under the bed at the side nearest to the user....
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KC,, they put locks on everything back then,, dressers, chests,, why not this too !! Just because a lock was on it didn`t mean it was always engaged !! Even the chamber pot could have been considered valuable !! Would have been to me if in the middle of the night I had to go and,, Oh No !! Someone took my pot !!!
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thats why it was safer under the bed....come to think of it....you,d need one of these....you being a lady and all that... ;D
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LOLOL In Texas, it's a bucket...otherwise an outhouse!
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like this perhaps....same in the Ukraine at my Aunts house.....i made a point of not eating anything after 8pm....as i did,nt fancy parking my bum on this in the middle of the night....
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LOLOL In Texas, it's a bucket...otherwise an outhouse!
My grandmother called it a slop jar !! One of those white enameled ones !!
Wullie I had an Uncle that would not have a toilet in his house till well into the 60`s !! Well to do old cuss he was too !! I have used the "shack out back" in my lifetime too !! Hated that yearly visit with them !!